Inherited Craziness
A place to share all the nuts found on my family tree

Friday 11 June 2021

Charles Archer and Kate Trevail

St Saviours Church, Pimlico
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © PAUL FARMER - geograph.org.uk/p/2815323
Picture taken from Chichester Street

Charles Archer (bap. 29 Dec 1861 at St Paul's, Poole, Dorset), son of Charles Archer and Ellen Briggs, married Kate Trevail (b. 12 Nov 1857), daughter of Joseph Trevail and Jane Rundle, at St Saviour'sSt George's SquarePimlico, London in 1884. 

Charles and Kate had three children: 
  1. Charles Archer b. 10 Jul 1885, bap. 10 Sep 1885 at St Saviour'sSt George's Square
  2. Ellen Florence Archer b. 23 Sep 1887, bap. 6 Nov 1887 at St Saviour'sSt George's Square
  3. Eileen Elfrida Trevail Archer b. 19 May 1897, bap. 18 Jul 1897 at St Gabriel's, Warwick Square
The birth of their second child was registered as Ellen Florence, but she was baptised Florence Ellen and later as an adult, mostly used Florence Ellen.

In 1891, Charles Archer (29) Collector, Kate Archer (33), Charles (5), Ellen F (3) and Lizzie Isch (20) General Domestic Servant, were in Chichester Street, Pimlico. (Kate's sister, Olivia and her family, also lived in Chichester Street in 1891.) "Collector" (to disappoint all of us thinking of antiques and curios), in the context of Charles Archer's job, is a Gas Rate Collector, i.e. the bloke who goes round collecting the shillings from the gas meters.

In 1901, still at 8, Chichester Street, Pimlico, were Charles Archer (39) Gas Rate Collector, Kate Archer (43), Charles Archer (15) Mechanical engineer's apprentice, Ellen Archer (13) and Eileen Archer (3).

In 1911, once again at 8, Chichester Street, Pimlico, there were Charles Archer (49) Collector, Kate (53), Ellen Florence (23) Lady clerk, Eileen Elfrida (13) at School and Beatrice Matthews (28) General Domestic Servant.

In 1921, Charles Archer (59) Collector (retired) from Poole, Dorset, was living at 18, Townley Road, Dulwich, Camberwell with Kate Archer (63) and Eileen Elfrida Trevail Archer (24) Music Mistress.

Charles Archer died on 17 Jan 1936, aged 74, in Hale, Cheshire.

Kate Archer, as well as Charles Archer Jnr and his wife and Eileen and her husband, were all living in Hale, Cheshire (now Greater Manchester) in 1939. 

Kate Archer, of Girvan, Leicester Road, Hale, Cheshire, widow, died on 29 Jan 1947, aged 89, leaving £557 10s to her son Charles Archer. 

  1. Charles Archer married Gladys Mary Pardew (b. 24 Aug 1885 in Plymouth, Devon), daughter of John Andrew Pardew and Pricilla Nichols Millard, in Bucklow, Cheshire, in 1920. Their son, Charles John Trevail Archer was born on 17 Oct 1921. In 1939, they were living at 23 Crescent, Hale, Cheshire. Charles Archer died on 31 Oct 1956 in Hale, Cheshire. Gladys Mary Archer died in Buckinghamshire, in 1961. Charles John Trevail Archer FFARCS died in St. Marylebone, London, in 1974.
  2. Florence Ellen Archer married John Leonard Ravenhill (b. 29 Dec 1881 in Kingston upon Thames, Surrey), son of Henry Ravenhill and Hannah Street, at St Saviour's, St George's Square, Pimlico, in 1911. They had two children: Eileen Nellie Trevail Ravenhill b. 1912 and Harry Kenneth Trevail Ravenhill b. 27 Jan 1917. In 1939 they were at 17 Townley Road, Dulwich, London. Florence Ellen Ravenhill died on 30 Nov 1952 in East Dulwich. John Leonard Ravenhill died in Surrey, in 1970.
  3. Eileen Elfrida Trevail Archer married Frank Marsden (b. 13 Jul 1887 in Dukinfield, Cheshire), son of John Marsden and Maria Hallas, in Camberwell, London, in 1927. Frank was a widower at the time of his marriage to Eileen and had a daughter, Joan Doreen Marsden b. 16 Dec 1919, from his previous marriage to May Chadderton, who had died in 1925. Frank and Eileen added a son, John Charles Marsden b. 22 Dec 1927. In 1939, they were living at Girvan, Leicester Road, Hale, Cheshire and Frank Marsden's occupation was Managing Director, Iron Foundry. Eileen Elfrida Trevail Marsden died in Northamptonshire, in 1976.

Thursday 10 June 2021

Thomas William Colwill and Olivia Trevail

St George's, Hanover Square
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Anthony O'Neil - geograph.org.uk/p/4518508

Olivia Trevail (b. 1854), daughter of Joseph Trevail and Jane Rundle, in 1871, aged 20, was a kitchen maid in the household of Francis Gosling (1837-1910), Banker, at Wellbury House, Great Offley, Hitchin, Hertfordshire. (Goslings Bank was one of the banks merged into Barclays Bank in 1896). In 1886, she married Thomas William Colwill at St George, Hanover Square. 

In 1891, Thomas Colwill (29) Labourer joiner, living at Chichester Street, St George Hanover Square, with wife Olivia (33), son Harry (2), as well as four boarders: Charles Usher (26), Walter Wilham (35), Constance Wilham (25) and Ernest Aller (24), claimed to be from Taunton, Somerset. He wasn't.

Following the clues, we discover that Thomas William Colwill, born in Pimlico in 1861, was the son of Henry Colwill, Joiner, and Mary White - who married in Wells, Somerset, in 1857. Thomas William Colwill was merely baptised at the Church of St Thomas, Wells, Somerset, in 1861. 

By 1901, Thomas Collwell (sic) (39) Builder's foreman, living at 24, Back Common Road, Lake Avenue Terrace, Chiswick, with Olivia (36), Harry (12) and Elsie (4), had remembered that he was born in Pimlico.

Thomas and Olivia had two children:
  1. Harry George Colwill born 1888 in Pimlico
  2. Elsie Mary Colwill born 1896 in Dalston
In 1911, Thomas Colwill (49) Foreman Joiner, Olivia Colwill (53), Harry Colwill (22) Joiner and Elsie Colwill (14), were living at 21 Slowmans Cottages, Ashingdon Road, Rochford, Essex. 

In 1921, T W Colwill (59) Commercial Traveller; Olivia Colwill (63) and Elsie Mary Colwill (24) Clerk at the Ministry of Pensions, were living at 108, Oval Road, Croydon, Surrey.

Thomas W Colwill died, aged 69, in 1930, in Croydon.

Olivia Colwell died, aged 83, in 1937, also in Croydon.

Charles Trevail and Mary Flemming

St Margaret, Westminster
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © John Salmon - geograph.org.uk/p/4749411

Charles Trevail (b. 1852), son of Joseph Trevail and Jane Rundle, in 1871, was living with his brother, Joseph Rundle Trevail, in Westminster. In Q1 of 1874, Charles married Mary Fleming at St Margaret's, Westminster

On the 1881 census, Mary claimed to be from Barnstaple, Devon, born around 1855. In 1891, she said she was from London; in 1901, Westminster and 1911, London City. One would normally trust the earliest records, but it transpires her father, Henry Fleming, a tailor, was from Barnstaple, while her mother, Edith was from Middlesex, City (i.e. London) - there is a marriage of a Henry Fleming to Edith Arding, in Kensington, in 1842 that may refer. The 1871 census where Mary (17) is living with her parents at Artillery Terrace, St Margaret, Westminster, says she was born in Soho, Middlesex.

Charles and Mary had five children, all born in Lambeth:
  1. Charles Frederick Trevail b. 1874
  2. Herbert Fleming Trevail b. 1877 
  3. Edwin Fleming Trevail b. 1880
  4. Lily Mary Trevail b. 1885
  5. Daisy Fleming Trevail b. 1893
In 1881, Charles Trevail (29) Engine Fitter, was living at 13, Meadow Terrace, Lambeth - at that time Charles' brother, Joseph, lived at 6, Meadow Terrace - with Mary (26), Charles F (6), Herbert F (4) and Edward (sic) F (0).

By 1891, they had moved to Osborne Terrace, Lambeth. With Charles (38) Engine Fitter, were Mary (36) Pattern Maker, Charles F (16), Herbert F (14) Messenger, Edwin F (10) Scholar and Lily M (5).

And in 1901, at 195, South Lambeth Road, Lambeth, we find Charles Trevail (48) Engine Fitter, Mary (46), Edwin (20) Carpenter, Lily (15) and Daisy (7). 

In 1911, Charles Trevail (59) Engineer, Mary (57), Frederick (37) widower (he married Charlotte Ada Land in Camberwell, in 1898), Daisy (17) and Arthur Trevail (11) Grandson, had moved to 10 Elgin Road, Wallington, Surrey.

Former Netherne Hospital administration building, converted to housing in 2002.
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Ian Capper - geograph.org.uk/p/5962277

Mary Trevail died on 28 July 1938, aged 85. The probate record says Mary Trevail of 62 Milton Road, Wallington, Surrey (wife of Charles Trevail) died at Netherne Hospital (formerly The Surrey County Asylum or Netherne Asylum: a psychiatric hospital), Coulsdon, Surrey, leaving effects of £300 to Charles Trevail of no occupation and Lord Harold Graves, builder. (Lord was a given name, not a title - he married Daisy Fleming Trevail in 1917.)

In 1939, Charles Trevail, Refridgerating Engineer Retired, was living with his daughter, Lily M Townsend (she had married William Dring Townsend in Croydon, in 1904) at 23 Dalmeny Road, Sutton, Surrey. 

Charles Trevail died, in Surrey, in 1946, aged 94.

Tuesday 8 June 2021

Dahlia Trevail, Frederick Mackness, Henry Charles Orton

St Mark's Church, North Audley Street, London W1
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © John Salmon - geograph.org.uk/p/1536122

Dahlia Trevail, daughter of Joseph Trevail and Jane Rundle, in 1871, was cook, in the household of Thomas William Bramston, Conservative Member for South Essex, at the family estate of Skreens, Roxwell, Chelmsford, Essex. Then, in Q3 of 1876, aged 27, she married Frederick Mackness (bap. 14 Feb 1827), a sawyer, son of George and Susanna Mackness, at St Mark, North Audley Street (St Mark's, Mayfair) - now home to Mercato Mayfair, a cultural hub and sustainable community market. The marriage was short-lived, because in the 4th quarter of that same year, Frederick died, aged 49. 

In 1881, Dahlia Mackness (31), widow, was once again employed as a cook, in the household of Sir William Miller, 1st Baronet in London, at 1, Park Lane. 

In the 3rd quarter of 1881, Dahlia Mackness married Henry Charles Orton at St George's, Hanover Square. It was "third time lucky" for Henry, son of Charles Orton and Mary Leach, born in Warwickshire in 1838. Henry had first married Elizabeth Neal on 11 Oct 1863 in Leamington Spa, but Elizabeth died, aged 31, in 1867, in Shipston-on-Stour. That marriage didn't produce any children. Henry then married widow, Ellen Reynolds (née Carpenter), in 1869, in what was then Aston, Warwickshire. Their daughters: Florence Mary Orton, was born in 1870, in Southam; Nellie Rose in Warwick in 1873 and Lizzie in Watford in 1877. Ellen Orton died, aged 47, also in Watford, where Henry C Orton (42) Builder's foreman, was living at 6, Church Road, in 1881.

Henry and Dahlia had two children, both born at 6, Church Road, Watford:
  1. Charles Orton b. 3 Jul 1882, bap. 24 Sep 1882 at St Andrew's, Watford
  2. Emily Maud Orton b. 21 Sep 1884, bap. 2 Nov 1884 at St Andrew's
In 1891, Henry C Orton (52) Carpenter, wife Delia (sic) (42), Florence (21), Charles (8), Maud (6), plus boarders: Samuel Cos (21) and Albert Batchelor (19) were living in London at Worcester Street, St George Hanover Square.

Then Henry Charles Orton died in the 4th quarter of 1892, aged 54.

Various newspapers in Apr 1893 reported on:
DAMAGES FOR THE LOSS OF A HUSBAND

The case of "Orton v. Simpson" came before Judge Bayley and a jury at Westminster County Court for a partition of the damages. Mrs Dahlia Orton and her children claimed £280 under the Employers' Liability Act from Messrs. Simpson and Company (Limited), engineers, of Pimlico. The husband was an engineer, and on 3 Dec last was killed whilst in the employ of the defending company through the bursting of a defective cylinder. The plaintiff had two children, aged eight and ten years, and there were two children of the deceased by a former marriage, aged 18 and 21. The defendants admitted their liability and paid £210 into court, which sum the plaintiff accepted, at Westminster County Court yesterday applied under Lord Campbell's Act for a partition of the damages. The jury awarded the plaintiff £50, the two children by a former marriage £5 each, and the plaintiff's two children £75. 

In 1901, Dahlia Orton (52) widow, was living at 16, Balfern Grove, Chiswick with Charles Orton (18), Emily M Orton (16) and three boarders: Alfred Hooke (22), Thomas Willcox (25) and Albert Clarke (27).

In 1911, Dahlia Orton (62) was staying with her daughter and her husband, William Charles Creedon (27) Licenced Victualler at the Builder's Arms8 Wyvil Road, Lambeth. (William Charles Creeden and Emily Maud Orton married, in Brentford, in 1907 and, in 1910, William Charles Creedon had been the landlord of the Oxford Arms, 77 St Peter Street, Bethnal Green.)

In 1921, Dahlia Orton (72) Widow was once again living with her daughter and son-in-law, this time back at 16, Balfern Grove, Chiswick, Middlesex.

Dahlia Orton died in 1925, aged 76, in Brentford.

Monday 7 June 2021

Joseph Rundle Trevail and Gertrude Augusta Shepherd ... and two intriguing weddings with Eliza Thursby

Lambeth Palace, London SE1. 
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © David Hallam-Jones - geograph.org.uk/p/3972034
The redundant St Mary-in-Lambeth Church at the side.

Joseph Rundle Trevail, son of Joseph Trevail and Jane Rundle, married Gertrude Augusta Shepherd (bap. 25 Apr 1845), illegitimate daughter of Eliza Shepherd, in Q1 of 1871 at St. George Hanover Square, London, although that may refer to the district, rather than the church itself. Gertrude, as was her mother, was a Honiton lace maker, from Colaton Raleigh in East Devon.

At the time of the 1871 census, Joseph Trevail (24) Engineer Fitter, was living in Denbigh Street, Westminster with wife Gertrude (25), brother Charles (20) Engineer Fitter, sisters Amy* (16) and Jane (12), as well as a visitor, Selina Rundle (20). (* Joseph didn't have a sister called Amy. Kate, maybe?)

Joseph and Gertrude had five children:

  1. Charley Thomas Trevail born 1871 (died 1871, aged 0) in Devon
  2. Charley Joseph Walter Radford Trevail born 1872 in St Thomas, Devon
  3. Annie Gertrude Trevail born 1875 in St. George Hanover Square
  4. Kate Olivia Trevail born 1880 in Lambeth
  5. Gertrude Augusta Trevail born 1884 (died 1885, age 0)
Mother's maiden name, in all cases, spelled Sheppard. 

In 1881, the family living at 6, Meadow Terrace, Lambeth, London, comprised: Joseph R Trevail (34) Engine fitter, Gertrude A (36), Charles J W R (8), Anne G (6), Kate O (0) and Eliza Sheppard (69) 'Relative' (Gertrude's mother). 

Joseph R Trevail and Eliza Trevail on the Australia, Victoria, Inward Passenger List

Then in Q3 of 1890, Joseph Rundle Trevail married Eliza Thursby. The marriage took place at the church of St Mary, Lambeth. Then, immediately, on 26 Sep 1890, Joseph R Trevail and Eliza Trevail embarked on the RMS Ormuz, bound for Victoria, Australia, where they arrived in Nov.

Which would all be absolutely fine and dandy, except ...

In 1891, Gertrude Trevail (46) wife, married, mender of fine lace, was alive and well, at the family home in Meadow Terrace, Lambeth, with daughters Annie G (16) & Kate O (10), and her mother, Eliza Shepperd (78). 

By 1901, Gertrude Trevail (55) Married [still], Honiton lace manufacturer, was living at 153, Kennington Road, Lambeth, with daughter Kate (20).

Meanwhile, Joseph Rundle Trevail, Engineer, was shown on the Australia Electoral Rolls in 1903, living in Market Street, New South Wales, Australia. 

Gertrude Trevail died, aged 58, in Q4 of 1910, in Epsom, Surrey. 

Departure of the P&O RMS CHINA
Australian National Maritime Museum on The Commons

Mr J R & Mrs Trevail then departed from London, on 17 Nov 1910, on the RMS China, this time bound for Sydney, via Freemantle, Adelaide and Melbourne, arriving in Fremantle, Western Australia on 20 Dec 1910. 

Then, in 1911, Joseph R Trevail married Eliza Thursby in Canterbury, New South Wales, Australia. Again. (I checked the National Archives for a divorce, though it would be very unlikely for ordinary people at that time, and of course there wasn't one.) Bigamy is a prison offence in both the UK and Australia, although the sentence length is lower in the latter. 

On 27 Feb 1921, J R and Mrs Trevail left Sydney for Wellington, New Zealand, on the SS Marama, as tourists. Joseph's sister Mary Ann had just died and his sister Ellen was still in New Zealand. 

The last will and testament of Joseph Rundle Trevail, who died on 20 Jan 1934, aged 86, of 52 Market Street, Randwick, New South Wales, Gentleman, left the balance of his estate to his 'dear wife Eliza', after various other bequests [and clues]. Among beneficiaries were a grandson, Arthur Waymark (his daughter, Annie Gertrude Trevail had married Louis Charles Waymark in Lambeth in 1898); his sister Olivia Caldwell (Olivia Trevail had married Thomas William Colwill in 1886 in St George, Hanover Square); her daughter was Elsie Bates; a niece, Florence Wright; other bequests go to a John Edwards and to granddaughters, Amy Edwards and Edith Anderson (née Edwards) (daughter Kate Olivia Trevail had married Frank William Edwards in 1903). His estate was valued at £3,757 in 1934, worth £275,819 today.

52 Market Street, Randwick, New South Wales