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Sunday, 4 October 2020

John Horn and Emma Green and Emily Grace Rudd

After the death of one of my 3rd great-grandfathers, Edward Green, landlord of the King and Queen in St George in the East, in 1870, his wife, Eliza, took over as landlady. In 1871, living with her was daughter, Emma Horn (née Green), listed as barmaid and Emma's husband John Horn (a Plumber).

The East London Observer in August 1875 lists Eliza Green as the outgoing licensee at the King and Queen, which ends the family's connection with that pub. But then on 20 May 1876, the same publication lists John Horn as the incoming licensee at the Salisbury Arms, where we find him still on the 1881 census, along with wife and children; Emma (12) and Albert William (8). 

The Salisbury Arms, at one time, stood at 135 Eastfield Street, Limehouse E14. Although the street is still in existence, this pub has been demolished

St George in the East Church
  Steve Cadman / CC BY-SA
John Isaac Robert Horn, my 2x great-grand uncle by marriage, born 18 Jul 1845, was baptised on 31 Aug 1845 at St George in the East church in St George-in-the-East. He was the son of Isaac Horn (a Plumber) and his wife Maria (née Thaxter) of 29 Lower Cornwall St, Shadwell.

In 1851, the family were living at China Place, Back Road, St George in the East with Isaac Horn (46), who was originally from Chippenham, Wiltshire; wife Maria (27) (a Coffee Shop Keeper) and sons; William (8), John (5) and Edwin (0). By 1861, Isaac had added painting to his repertoire of trades and the family, still in Back Road, had grown to include son Isaac (15) and daughter Lucy (3). Both William and John had followed in their father's footsteps to become plumbers. 

John Horn had married Emma Green on 4 Nov 1867, in Stepney. The couple had a daughter Emma, born in 1869 and a son, Edward John Horn, who was born in the 1st quarter, but died in the 3rd quarter of 1871. In the 3rd quarter of 1872, son Albert William is born.
  1. Emma Eliza Horn born 1869
  2. Edward John Horn 1871 (died 1871)
  3. Albert William Horn born 1872
Grave of John Horn at
Dulwich Old Cemetery
Clearly something then happened to Emma, because, in the 4th quarter of 1889, John Horn married Emily Grace Rudd (b. 8 Jul 1857), daughter of Samuel J Rudd (Waiter - began as a Pot Boy) and his wife Mary. 

By 1891, John Horn is "Living on his own means" in Apsley Road, Croydon, Surrey, along with new wife, Emily Grace, and son, Albert William (18) from his first marriage. 

In 1901, now a Retired Publican, John Horn is living 6, Harrington Road, Croydon, Surrey, along with wife, Emily Grace, son Albert (28), daughter Emily Margaret (8) and son Edward John (1), born in1900.
  1. Emily Margaret Horn born 1893
  2. Edward John Horn born 1900
  3. Alfred George born 1902
John Horn died, on Leap Day, 29 Feb 1904, "After Long & Patient Suffering", aged 58. He is buried at Dulwich Old Cemetery, along with his second wife and his daughter, Emma Eliza, from his first marriage to Emma Green. Their son, Albert William, died in the 2nd quarter of 1905, aged 32. 

In 1911, Emily Grace Horn (52), widow, was still living at 6, Harrington Road, Croydon, with daughter Emily Margaret (18) and sons Edward John (11) and Alfred George (9). She was also still at the same address in 1939, aged 82, along with a Domestic Servant, Ivy Carter (24). Emily Grace Horn, then of 19 Macclesfield Road, Woodside, Croydon, widow, died on 7 Aug 1950. She will have been 93. Probate was granted to her sons, Edward John Horn, engineer, and Alfred George Horn, fitter. She left effects of £610 19s 6d (approx. value in £21,040 in 2020). She was buried with her late husband

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