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Thursday, 22 April 2021

John Harvey and Esther Glede

Georgian Town Houses on Arbour Square, Stepney Casualguy, Public domain

John Harvey married Esther Glede, daughter of Morris Glede and Sarah Thorn, on 11 Aug 1849, at the church of St ThomasStepney, which had stood in Arbour Square: "a neat edifice of Suffolk brick, in the early English style, with two octangular turrets that was erected in 1837." It closed in 1940

The record of the marriage lists the bride's father as Morris Glede, the bridegroom's father as John Harvey and all three, including the bridegroom, with the occupation of Labourer. John and Esther are listed as bachelor and spinster, respectively and the record states that they were "of full age". Esther would have been 20, John 38. Witnesses were Eleanor Hooper and John P Hughlings. Can't help wondering if there's a significance to this being a church the family hasn't previously used and that the witnesses seem entirely unconnected.

John and Esther already had three children and added several more:
  1. Sarah Harvey born c. 1843 in Essex
  2. Susannah Harvey, born 15 Oct 1845 at 174 Eastfield Street, Limehouse (Mother's maiden surname on the civil registration written as Glead)
  3. Mary Ann Harvey born 1848 (Mother's maiden surname Gleed)
  4. John Harvey born 1850 (Mother's maiden surname Gleed)
  5. Morris Harvey born 1853 (Mother's maiden surname Gleed)
  6. Esther Harvey born 1855 (Mother's maiden surname Gleed)
  7. Job Harvey born 5 Oct 1859, bap. 14 Dec 1859 at St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney (died in the 4th quarter of 1859)
  8. Job Harvey born 6 Nov 1860, bap. 9 Jan 1861 at St Dunstan and All Saints
  9. Lydia Harvey bap. 14 Apr 1864 at St John the Evangelist, Limehouse
The 1851 census shows them living in Fair Place, Stepney, and lists John Harvey (40), Labourer, born in Chingford, Essex c. 1811, wife Esther (32), Sarah (8), born in Essex, Susannah (5), Mary Ann (3), both born in Limehouse and John (0), born in Stepney. Esther was actually 22 then. I'm confident this is the right household, but what I think is going on here is that her age has been 'rounded up' to hide how young she was - 16 at the time Susannah was born. Was Sarah Harvey, born 1843, in Essex, actually Esther's child? I'm not entirely convinced, but have been unable to identify any relevant birth to confirm either way. 

Unable to find them in 1861, I did find that John Harvey died in 1866, aged 56.

In 1871, Esther Harvey (47), Trouser Finisher, was living back in Eastfield Street, Limehouse, with son John (21), Bricklayer's Labourer, Morris (19), Dock Labourer, Esther (16), Trouser Finisher, Job (12), Scholar, and Lydia (8).

There is a potential death for Esther Harvey, aged 76, in 1899.

The Limehouse Cut
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Morris Glede and Sarah Thorn

St Dunstan & All Saints, Stepney
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Morris Glede (or Gleed) b. 1783, married Sarah Thorn b. 1793, at St Dunstan and All SaintsStepney on 14 Sep 1812. Both of them were then listed as from the Hamlet of Ratcliff, a sub-district, in Stepney and Limehouse parishes. The marriage was solemnised in the presence of [unreadable] and Ann Gleed. 

Records exist for the following children: 
  1. William Gleed, bap. 20 Feb 1814 at St Dunstan and All Saints
  2. Esther Gleed, bap. 12 Nov 1829 at St Dunstan and All Saints
  3. Morris Gleed, born c. 1833
In 1841, Morris Gleed (58), wife Sarah (48), daughter Esther (17) and son Morris (8) were living in Edmonton. Morris Gleed died, aged 58, in 1843, in Edmonton. And in 1851, Sarah Gleed (58), widow, laundress, born in Bromley, Middlesex (Bromley-by-Bow), was living back in Mile End Old Town, with son Morris (18) a dock labourer. I've been unable to identify Sarah's death.

Marriage of Morris Glede and Sarah Thorn
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