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Saturday, 16 April 2022

William George Maslin and Charlotte Jackson (née Bland)

Poplar, All Saints' Church
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William George Maslin (bap. 28 Mar 1819 in Deptford), son of John and Elizabeth Maslin, married Charlotte Jackson, then 24, at All Saints Church, Poplar, in the second quarter of 1844. The mother's maiden name on the registrations of their children, however, is listed as Bland. So, delving deeper, we find that Charlotte Bland, at 18, had previously married Joseph Jackson at St Paul's, Deptford, in 1838. That marriage had produced one child, Rebecca Jackson, born 1841 and registered in the Greenwich Union

Charlotte Bland, born 23 Feb 1820 and baptised on 30 Mar 1820 at St Alfege's Church, Greenwich (Henry VIII was baptised in a previous church on the site), was the daughter of Thomas and Sarah Bland. There is apparently, a note on her baptism, Pn, which denotes Poor Note, believed to be a note from the poorhouse to pay for the baptism. Greenwich's first parish workhouse was opened in 1724, next door to St Alfege's Church, so it's very possible that Thomas and Sarah were inmates of the said institution and that Charlotte was born there.

In 1841, Charlotte Jackson (21) was living in Church Street, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich with an Elizabeth Millard (75) who may have been a boarder or lodger. On the original census schedule, next to Charlotte's name instead of an occupation, is written "Wife of Joseph Jackson", so we can be in no doubt this is her. That, in turn, infers Joseph Jackson is alive and living elsewhere and, there is a likely Joseph Jackson (20) listed at that time as stationed at the Royal Artillery Barracks, 7th Battalion, Woolwich. There is also a death of a Joseph Jackson (26) - given that 1841 census ages are rounded down, I feel this is acceptable - in Greenwich in the first quarter of 1842. These records may well relate.

Deptford Broadway
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Derek Harper - geograph.org.uk/p/2393904
Looking across the width of the broadway from Chesham House. The five white stucco frontages in the centre, numbers 17-21, are "probably all of late C17 origin". They are slightly set forward from the rest of the terrace. On the right, the frontage curves into Deptford Church Street.

William and Charlotte Maslin had six children:
  1. Joseph Maslin b. 3 Aug 1845, bap. 14 Sep 1845 at St Paul's, Deptford
  2. William George Maslin b. 13 Jan 1848 M Quarter in GREENWICH UNION Volume 05 Page 227, bap. 31 Oct 1852 in Deptford. (Transcription of the baptism had given his birth in Jun, but this cannot be correct as his birth had already been registered in the March quarter. Thus must be Jan.)
  3. Elizabeth Sarah Maslin b. 19 May 1850 in GREENWICH Volume 05 Page 205, bap. 4 Aug 1850 at St Paul's, Deptford.
  4. Unnamed female child b. 1852 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 476, presume died, or stillborn (no corresponding death found).
  5. Alfred Maslin b. 21 Jul 1854 in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 486, bap. 8 Oct 1854 at St Paul's, Deptford
  6. James Maslin b. 12 Sep 1857 in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 512, bap. 15 Nov 1857 at St Paul's, Deptford
Mother's maiden surname on the five that have civil registrations is Bland.

In 1851, at 2, Broadway South Side, St Pauls Deptford, Hatcham, were William G Maslin (32) Brass worker; Charlotte (31) Greengrocer; Rebecca Jackson (9) Step daughter; Joseph (5), William G (3) and Elizabeth S (1). In 1851 also, in Charles Street, St Paul Deptford, was John Maslin (74) Greengrocer, and his wife Elizabeth (66) Laundress, who appear to be William's parents. 

In 1871, they were in Nile Street, St Paul, Greenwich with William Maslin (52) Greengrocer; Charlotte Maslin (51), Alfred Maslin (16) Apprentice to painter and James Maslin (14) Boy at Iron foundry (J. Stone & CoDeptford Foundry?)

And in 1881, at 4, Nile Street, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich - Vanguard Street (previously Nile Street and Nelson Street) was amongst the earliest streets to be developed in the area south of Deptford Broadway - were William G Maslin (63) Brass finisher; Charlotte Maslin (62) Laundress; William G Maslin (33) Plasterers labourer; James Maslin (23) Blacksmiths labourer; Jessie Maslin (21) Collar ironer (James' "wife") and Emily Padbury (10) Granddaughter. 

Charlotte Maslin died, in Greenwich, aged 71, in 1890.

William George Maslin died, aged 80, in 1898.

Friday, 15 April 2022

James Maslin and Jessie Elizabeth Dunford

Batavia Road, New Cross
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Chris Whippet - geograph.org.uk/p/4358143

There appear to be no records of a marriage between James Maslin and Jessie Elizabeth Dunford (or any Jessie, anywhere, for that matter), but they were living as husband and wife in the home of James' parents, William George Maslin and Charlotte Bland, in 1881. James (23) was a Blacksmiths Labourer from Deptford; Jessie (21) Collar Ironer, reputedly hailed from Southwark

James and Jessie had three children: 

  1. Jessie Elizabeth Maslin b. 1883 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 994, bap. 6 Jul 1883 in Hatcham, presumably Hatcham, St James
  2. Florence Charlotte Maslin b. 1886 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1021, bap. 23 Jan 1890 at Hatcham, St James
  3. James Thomas Maslin b. 1890 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1032, bap. 23 Jan 1890 also at Hatcham, St James
(Hatcham largely corresponds to the area around New Cross.)

The mother's maiden name on all three registrations is listed as Dunford. On Jessie Elizabeth's baptism, her mother's name is given also as Jessie Elizabeth (on those of Florence and James, it is listed only as Jessie), so I'm taking in on trust, although as that is the only place the middle name of Elizabeth appears, it leads me to think it's just assumed or copied and to doubt that the mother actually had this middle name. Those birth and baptism records are the only sources for identifying who she was: I found no records for the birth of a Jessie or Jessie Elizabeth Dunford anywhere, let alone near Southwark in 1860.

In 1891, one of two families living at 15 Batavia Road, New Cross were James Maslin (33) Blacksmiths Labourer, Jessie Maslin (31), Jessie (8), Elizabeth (5) - clearly, they mean Florence Charlotte - and James (1).

Then Jessie Maslin died, at just 35, in 1895 M Quarter in Greenwich.

In 1901, James Maslin (43), listed as single, and employed as a Potman (a man employed in a public house to collect empty pots or glasses), was living at the (Common Lodging House), (formerly Brunswick House), 124, Tanners Hill, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich. Eldest daughter, Jessie E Maslin was employed as a General domestic servant in the household of Sydney T Wayment (33) Grain merchant at 194, High Street, St Nicholas Deptford, Greenwich. Cannot be sure of where Florence Charlotte was in 1901, but at 15, she was almost certainly also in a situation as a domestic servant somewhere. Son, James Maslin (11) from New Cross, Surrey, was a boarder in the household of Edward Cheeseman (39) Potman (public house) at 4, Morden Street, Greenwich.

Common Lodging Houses, also known as the doss-house, were an option for those who could scrape together a few pence to stay out of the workhouse, though they were scarcely any better and notorious for overcrowding. 

It's no surprise that James Maslin died, aged 44, in the 4th quarter of 1901.

  • In the second quarter of 1910, Florence Charlotte Maslin married Albert Robert Williams, in Woolwich. In 1911, Albert Robert Williams (25) Soldier A S CorpsSergeant, from ClonmelTipperary; Florence Charlotte Williams (24) from Deptford and their one-and-a-half month old son, Robert Ronald Williams, were living at Caxton House, Godfrey Hill, Woolwich. A second child, Irene Dorothy Williams, was born, in Woolwich, in 1912.
  • James Maslin (21), in 1911, born in New Cross, Kent, was with the 2nd Battalion The King's Shropshire Light Infantry, in Trimulgherry (Tirumalagiri), India.