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Showing posts with label Gloyne. Show all posts
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Saturday, 31 December 2022

Edward Charles Drake and Emma Jane Gloyne

Former entrance to Roath Basin, Cardiff
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Edward Charles Drake, son of Edmund Drake and Esther Elizabeth Palmer, married Emma Jane Gloyne, daughter of Samuel Pascoe Gloyne and Emma Jane Coombes, on 12 Jul 1886 in Roath, Glamorgan, Wales. 

Edward Charles Drake's mother, Esther Elizabeth Palmer, was the older sister of Edward Oxford Palmer, who was married to Emma Jane's older sister, Charlotte Emma Gloyne. So, Charlotte's husband was Emma's husband's uncle - or Emma's husband was Charlotte's husband's nephew. The two couples' respective children will have been double-cousins, once removed and once not, I think. Working out family relationships just got very complicated!

Edward and Emma had eight children:
  1. Esther Kathleen Drake b. GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 330
  2. Gladys Emma Drake b. GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 334
  3. John Gloyne Drake b. 6 May 1891, GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 342. Died 4 Jul 1915 (see below).
  4. Francis Oxford Drake b. GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 396
  5. Helen Palmer Drake b. 7 February 1895 in Plymouth. (No GRO record.)
  6. Fred Silby Drake b. GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in MONMOUTH Volume 11A Page 16. Died, aged 4, in GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 253
  7. Constance Edith Drake b. GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 8
  8. Florence May Drake b. GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in EAST STONEHOUSE Volume 05B Page 255
In 1891, Edward Drake (28) Iron Moulder, Emma Drake (29) and their first two daughters, Esther (3) and Gladys (1) were living in the household of Edward's parents, Edmund and Esther Drake in Moira Street, Cardiff.

In 1901, Edward C Drake (39) Iron & Brass Founder, was resident in Durnford Street, East Stonehouse, with wife Emma J Drake (40), Gladys E Drake (11), John G Drake (9), Francis O Drake (8), Helen P Drake (6) and Constance E Drake (2). Eldest daughter, Esther Drake (13) was staying with her grandparents, Edmund and Esther Drake, in Seymour Street, Roath.

In 1911, Edward Drake (49) Iron and Brass Founder, was still in Plymouth with wife Emma Drake (50) and daughters, Gladys Drake (21), Helen Drake (17), Constance Drake (12) and Florence (9). Esther Kathleen had married in 1906 and was living in North End, Buckland, Portsmouth; John Drake (19) Stoker, was in Chatham, Kent; haven't yet located Francis.

Emma Drake died, in 1912, age given as 51 - she was 54 (GRO Reference: 1912 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 276).

Son John Drake died at HMS Vivid (shore establishment 1890), the Royal Navy barracks at Devonport. John Drake had joined the Royal Navy, at 18, on 9 July 1909, at which time he was 5 ft 3½ in with a 33¾ inch chest, light brown hair, light brown eyes and a fair complexion. At the time of his death he was assigned to Vivid II, the Stokers and Engine Room Artificers School in Devonport. The note on his naval record states that he was DD (Discharged Dead) on 4 July 1915 in Sick Quarters, Devonport Depot as result of cycle accident. Inquest verdict:- Accidental death through cycle accident.


Edward Charles Drake (55) married Helen or Ellen Saull (48) on 23 Dec 1916, in Roath, Glamorganshire, Wales. He was still living in Cardiff in 1921.

Edward Charles Drake died, at 74, in 1935 (GRO Reference: 1935  D Quarter in PLYMOUTH  Volume 05B  Page 403).

Friday, 30 December 2022

Albert William Horswell and Rosina Ann Gloyne

North Street, Greenbank, Plymouth
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North Street is a narrow cobbled street which runs from Sutton Harbour up the hillside into the heart of the Greenbank District. It is reputed to be one of the oldest routes in Plymouth.

Albert William Horswell (b. 6 May 1865), son of William Horswell and Julia Hurrell, married Rosina Ann Gloyne, youngest daughter of Samuel Pascoe Gloyne and Emma Jane Coombes, in Plymouth in 1886. Inexplicably, but usefully, the bride's name is listed as Rosina Pascoe Gloyne. 

In 1891, Albert W Horswell (25) Steam Engine Maker Fitter and wife, Rosina A Horswell (25) were living in North Street, Plymouth.

But Rose Annie Horswell died, at just 31, in 1896 (GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 200).

By 1901, Albert Horswell (35) Steam Engine Maker Fitter, was living, in Ebrington Street, Plymouth with new wife, Bessie Horswell (34), although I can find no record of a further marriage of Albert Horswell to anyone.

Albert Horswell (45) Engine Fitter at Government Dockyard was still living in Plymouth with 'wife' Bessie Horswell (44) in 1911. 

He and Bessie are still in Plymouth in 1921. Albert William Horswill (sic) died at the age of 74 and his death was registered in the first quarter of 1940 (GRO Reference: 1940 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 921).

Edward Oxford Palmer and Charlotte Emma Gloyne

The Melbourne Inn, Plymouth
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This pub on the corner of Cecil Street (left) and Wyndham Street, with its green glazed tiles, one of the toughest pubs in Plymouth, has been recommended for listing. Originally built in the 1700s, this Stonehouse pub was later named after British Prime Minister Lord Melbourne.

Edward Oxford Palmer, Seaman, son of Charles Palmer and Mary Oxford, married Charlotte Emma Gloyne, daughter of Samuel Pascoe Gloyne and Emma Jane Coombes at the The Anglican Church of the Holy Trinity on 9 Mar 1873. The church was destroyed during the Blitz in 1941 and demolished. 

The couple had one child:
  1. Charles Edward Samuel Palmer b. 9 Sep 1874 (GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 248), bap. 4 Oct 1874, in the Parish of Charles, Plymouth. (Charles Church was destroyed during the night of March 21st/22nd 1941.) The family's address was 8 Devonshire Street, Plymouth and Edward's profession was again listed as Seaman.
Edward Oxford Palmer, born 31 May 1844, had enlisted in the Royal Navy on 25 Apr 1859, shortly before his 15th birthday, as a Boy 2nd Class. At that time he was 5 ft and ½ inch, with a Fresh complexion, Light brown hair and Grey eyes. He had a scar on the left side of his chin and weighed 110 lbs. The ship on which he entered service was HMS Impregnable. He remained in the service until 1882, achieving the rank of Petty officer first class.

In 1881, living at 67, Cecil Street, Plymouth, were Edward Palmer (36) Quarter master royal navy; Charlotte Palmer (27) and son Charles Palmer (6).

Although, in 1891, Edward O Palmer (46) General Labourer was living in Roath, Cardiff, Wales, with Charlotte A Palmer (36) and son Charles (16) Fitter's Apprentice. (Charlotte's sister Emma Jane married in Roath.)

By 1901, the family had returned to Plymouth and were living in Alexandra Road, Ford, Devonport, with Edward Palmer (56) General Labourer; Charlotte Palmer (46), Charles Palmer (26) Steam Engine Fitter and Emma Gloyne (74) Widow, Former Monthly Nurse, Charlotte's mother in the household.

In 1902, son Charles Edward Palmer married Alice Amy Gamblen.

In 1911 and still living in Devonport, were Edward O Palmer (66) Naval Pensioner and Charlotte Palmer (56). Son, Charles Palmer (36) Engine Fitter at Government Dockyard, was also living in Devonport, with wife Alice Palmer (36) and Cyril Gamblen (5), inexplicably listed as a Niece (not Nephew). 

Edward Oxford Palmer died in 1913, aged 69. (GRO Reference: 1913 D Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 392.)

Then Edward and Charlotte's son, Charles Edward Palmer also died, on 17 Apr 1915, aged just 40 (GRO Reference: 1915 J Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 444). Probate was granted to Alice Palmer on 8 Jun 1915. The couple do not appear to have had any children. Alice Amy Palmer does not appear to have remarried and is listed in Plymouth in 1921 and again in 1939. She died, in Plymouth, in 1969, in what will have been her 95th year.


Charlotte Palmer died, at 75, in 1930. (GRO Reference: 1930 M Quarter in EAST STONEHOUSE Volume 05B Page 401.)

Wednesday, 21 July 2021

Samuel Pascoe Gloyne and Emma Jane Coombes

Lower Lane, Plymouth
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Samuel Pascoe Gloyne and Emma Jane Coombes married in East Stonehouse in the 2nd quarter of 1851. At the time of the 1851 Census, Samuel Gloyne (22) Merchant Sailor, had been lodging with John Coombes (55) Widower, a Scavenger (a scavenger, as a job in Victorian times, was a dustman or street cleaner), his unmarried daughter, Emma Coombes (21) and John Coombes (2) (b. 1848 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 392, Emma's illegitimate son), Grandson at 10, Lower Lane, Saint Andrew, Plymouth. 

A record from 1853 lists Samuel Gloyne (b. 1828) as a Merchant Seaman.

Samuel and Emma Gloyne went on to have at least seven further children together, with Charlotte, Emma and Samuel baptised, on 1 Sep 1861, at Charles Church, Plymouth, their address given as Gasking Street and Samuel Pascoe Gloyne's profession given as Seaman:

  1. Emma Jane Gloyn b. 1851 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 374. Died, 1852 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B  Page 206, buried on Leap Day, 29 February 1852, at Plymouth, St Andrew.
  2. Charlotte Emma Gloyne b. 28 Dec 1854, 1855 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 217
  3. Emma Jane Gloyne b. 28 Jul 1858, 1858 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 211
  4. Samuel Richard Pascoe Gloyne b. 14 Aug 1861, S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 235. Died, 1862 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 174 and was buried at Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth.
  5. Maria Gloyne b. 1863 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 217
  6. Bessie Emma Gloyne b. 1865 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B  Page 237, died 1865 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 177 and buried at Ford Park Cemetery, Plymouth.
  7. Rosina Ann Gloyne b. 1865 D Qtr in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 237
It is clear from the dates that Bessie Emma and Rosina Ann were twins.

In 1861, Samuel was away, presumably at sea, while Emma Gloyn (sic) Mariner's Wife, was living at 1, Gasking Street, Charles, Plymouth. John (13) was then listed as John Gloyn, rather than Coombes and had become a Rope Maker's Assistant. With them were Charlotte (6) Scholar, and Emma J (2).

In 1863, the England & Wales Merchant Navy Crew Lists, lists Samuel Gloyne (35) as Able seaman, of the 108 ton vessel, Gipsey, owned by John Bayley, Merchant from Plymouth, under master John Searle of Guildford Street, Plymouth. Samuel Gloyne had joined the vessel on 1 Jul 1863.

In 1871, daughter, Emma Gloyn (12) was a Servant in the household of Dorothy Clatworthy (69) Annuitant. Jane Pascoe (14) was a visitor.

In 1881, Emma Gloyn (52) Formerly Nurse, listed as Wife, Married, was lodging at 37, North Street, Plymouth, along with her daughter Maria Gloyn (17) General Servant (Out of Employment). At that time, daughter Emma Gloyne (22) was employed as a Housemaid to Ship Agent, William T Weekes at 5, Lipson Terrace, Plymouth; while Rose Gloyne (15) was employed as a Domestic Servant in the household of John Foot, Tailors Cutter from the City of London, at 8, Ann's Place, Devonport

By 1891, Emma Gloyn (60) Nurse, Widow, was lodging in Mildmay Street, Plymouth, so clearly Samuel had died in the previous decade. 

In 1901, Emma Gloyne (74), Widowed, Retired Monthly Nurse, was living with her son-in-law, Edward Oxford Palmer and daughter Charlotte Palmer in Alexandra Road, Devonport. Emma Gloyne died, aged 76, in Devonport (1907 M Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 284).

Anthony Joseph Mullarkey and Maria Gloyne

Wyndham Street West, Plymouth
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With the spire of the 
Roman Catholic cathedral of St Mary & St Boniface

Anthony Joseph Mullarkey, son of Martin Mullarkey and possibly Catherine Loughlin, married Maria Gloyne, daughter of Samuel Pascoe Gloyne and Emma Jane Coombes, on 20 Nov 1887 at the Roman Catholic cathedral of St Mary & St Boniface, Plymouth. On his Royal Marines record, Anthony Mullarkey (b. 5 Dec 1864), had said he was from Garston, Liverpool. He had indeed enlisted in the Royal Marines, in Liverpool, on 5 Jun 1883, his previous job being a Labourer and professed to be Roman Catholic.

However, in 1881, Anthony Mullarkey (16) General Labourer, had been boarding at 8, Hughes Street, Garston, along with his father, Martin Mullarkey (40) and Michael Mullarkey (7). All three were said to be from Ireland.

Anthony Joseph Mullarkey and Maria Gloyne had three children:

  1. John Martin Mullarkey b. 10 May 1890
  2. Anthony Charles Mullarkey b. 12 Jan 1893
  3. Kathleen Mullarkey b. 17 Jan 1896
All three were baptised, on 1 May 1896, at St Paul's, East Stonehouse - The Anglican Church, situated at the southern end of Durnford Street. The family's address on these baptism records was listed as 8 Admiralty Street, East Stonehouse, with their father's rank listed as Private RMLI.

Victualling yard at the Royal Naval Dockyard, Bermuda
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On 20 Dec 1895, Anthony joined HMS Terror (1856) (a 16-gun iron screw floating battery that became the base ship at Bermuda in 1857), from which he was Discharged Dead (at 32) on 2 Dec 1896. 

In 1901, Maria Mullarkey (36), Seamstress, Widow, was still at 8, Admiralty Street, East Stonehouse with John (11), Charles (8) and Kathleen (5).

In 1911, and still at 8, Admiralty Street, East Stonehouse, Maria Mullarkey (48) was in receipt of a pension from the Admiralty. Anthony Charles Mullarkey (18) Bugler RMLI was home on leave and Kathleen Mullarkey (15) was an apprentice tailoress to a Military Tailor. John Martin Mullarkey (20) was serving with the Royal Navy on HMS Medea (HMS Medea (1888), anchored in Malta Harbour.

Maria Mullarkey died in East Stonehouse in 1924, aged 61.

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