Edward Tubb, Hannah Bussey & Sarah Elizabeth Joy

The second St. Mary's Church, Portsea, built in 1843, incorporated the Tudor
west tower of the old church. Image: Simon Wright. Some rights reserved

Edward Tubb (b. 1827), son of William Tubb and Sarah Ruff, married Hannah Bussey, daughter of Benjamin Bussey and Elizabeth Bowen at St Mary's Church, Portsea on 13 May 1850. (That will have been in the previous, second church, built 1843, not the current building, built in the 1880s.)

Edward and Hannah had three children:

1. Elizabeth Tubb b. 1850 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 07 Page 173, bap. 29 Dec 1850 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
2. Susan Alice Tubb b. 23 Jul 1852 Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 02B Page 334, bap. 7 Oct 1855 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
3. Edward Tubb b. 1860 D Quarter in SHEPPEY Volume 02A Page 575, died, aged 2 in 1863 M Quarter in SHEPPEY Volume 02A Page 461, buried on 28 Mar 1863 at Sheppey Cemetery.

In 1851, the couple had not yet set up home. That year, Edward Tubb (23) Shipwright, was a visitor in the household of Jane Watsworth (40), Seaman's Wife in Nelson Street, Portsea (she may well have been a relative). While Hannah Tubb (21) and their daughter, Elizabeth Tubb (0) were in the household of Hannah's widowed mother, Elizabeth Bussey (56).

They must have moved to the Isle of Sheppey, Kent between 1855 and 1860, because in 1861, the family lived at 4 James Street, Minster in Sheppey, Sheerness with Edward Tubb (33), Shipwright from Portsmouth; Hannah Tubb (32), Elizabeth Tubb (10), Susan Tubb (9) and Edward Tubb (0).

Then Hannah Tubb died, aged only 33, and was buried, on 27 Jun 1862, at Sheppey Cemetery.

In the 3rd quarter of 1864, Edward Tubb remarried, in Thanet, Kent, to Sarah Elizabeth Joy (bap. 8 Mar 1829 at St. John The Baptist, Margate), daughter of Edward Joy and Harriet Mary Garling. 

Edward and Sarah added another three children:

4. Herbert Joy Tubb b. 8 Oct 1865 D Qtr in SHEPPEY Vol 02A Page 716
5. Harriet Mary Tubb b. 21 May 1867 J Qtr in SHEPPEY Vol 02A Page 752
6. Grace Hannah Tubb b. 9 Aug 1871 S Qtr in SHEPPEY Vol 02A Page 754

In 1871, living at 5 Rock Cottages, Minster, Sheppey, were Edward Tubb (43) Shipwright, Sarah E Tubb (42), H J Tubb (Herbert Joy) (5), HM Tubb (Harriet Mary) (3) and Harriet Curtis (13) Boarder. I've been unable to find either Elizabeth or Susan, who at 20 & 19, were presumably out working.

In 1881, they were living at Cheyney Rock Cottages, Minster in Sheppey. Edward Tubb (58); Sarah (51), Herbert (15), Harriet (13) and Grace (9). 

Edward Tubb died 26 Jan 1884, in Sheppey. He will have been 56. He is buried at Sheppey Cemetery, a.k.a. Halfway Cemetery, Sheerness.

In 1891, Sarah E Tubb (61), widow, was a lodger in the household of John Parrett (31) Upholsterer in Trinity Road, Minster in Sheppey. Visiting were daughter, Harriet Mary Penfold (26), Harriet M Penfold (6) and George E Penfold (2). Herbert J Tubb (25) Merchant's Clerk, was in Cornwall. Grace Tubb (19) was a General Servant Domestic in the household of George Harper (49), Upholsterer & Auctioneer in Castle Street, Ashford, Kent.

Sarah Tubb, with her age estimated to 64, died in 1895 J Quarter in WEST ASHFORD (Volume 02A  Page 432). There is a record of a burial of a Sarah Tubbs (sic) in Ashford, on 10 May 1895, which very likely relates.

Joseph Edward Tipping and Grace Hannah Tubb

Ann Hathaway's Cottage, Shottery, Warwickshire
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Joseph Edward Tipping (b. 4 May 1856 in Tardebigge, Worcestershire and bap. 22 Jun 1856 in Redditch), son of Henry Tipping and Elizabeth Tarplee (m. 1856 in Alcester), married Grace Hannah Tubb, daughter of Edward Tubb and Sarah Elizabeth Joy - sister of Herbert Joy Tubb and Harriet Mary Tubb and half-sister of Elizabeth Tubb and Susan Alice Tubb - in Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, on 22 Nov 1900. Joseph, then 44, was a widower.

In 1861, Joseph (4) son of Henry Tipping (48) Farmer of 148 Acres at Upper Bentley, Bromsgrove; in 1871, at 14, he was a pupil boarder at Birch Abbey Lane Boys School, Alcester, Warwickshire and in 1881, while his father had upgraded to 230 acres at Banks Green Farm, Webheath, Bromsgrove; Joseph (25) was Farm Bailiff at Berrow Green Farm, Martley, Worcestershire.

Joseph's previous marriage, on 20 Oct 1884, at All Saints Church in the parish of Weston-on-Avon, then in Gloucestershire, was to Mary Ellen Wareing (b. 10 Aug 1857 in Fringford, Oxfordshire), with whom he had four children: 

1. Martha Elizabeth Tipping b. 1885 S Quarter in OF ALCESTER IN THE COUNTIES OF WARWICK & WORCESTER Vol 06D Page 624, bap. 4 Oct 1885 at St. Mary and All Saints, Haselor, died at the age of 5 months in 1886 M Quarter in ALCESTER IN THE COUNTIES OF WARWICK AND WORCESTER Vol 06D Page 442 and buried on 25 Jan 1886 in Haselor. 
2. Elise Ellen Tipping b. 1887 S Quarter in ALCESTER IN THE COUNTIES OF WARWICK AND WORCESTER Volume 06D Page 615, bap. 11 Sep 1887 at St. Mary and All Saints, Haselor.
3. Edward John Henry Tipping b. 1889 J Quarter in OF ALCESTER IN THE COUNTIES OF WARWICK AND WORCEST Vol 06D Page 657, bap. 4 Apr 1889 at St. Mary and All Saints, Haselor, died at 4 months in 1889 S Quarter in OF ALCESTER IN THE COUNTIES OF WARWICK AND WORCEST Vol 06D Page 372 and buried on 10 Aug 1889 in Haselor.
4. Winifred Agnes Tipping b. 1890 S Quarter in ALCESTER IN THE COUNTIES OF WARWICK AND WORCESTER Volume 06D Page 628, bap. 16 Jul 1890 at St. Mary and All Saints, Haselor.

In 1891, Joseph E Tipping (34) Farmer was living at Rolls Wood, Water Lane, Haselor, Alcester, Warwickshire with wife Mary E (33), Elise E (4), Winifred (0), Gertrude M Tipping (7) Niece and Charles Shirley (14) Farm Servant.

Mary Ellen Tipping died, aged 38, on 13 Apr 1896, and was buried on 17 Apr 1896, in Haselor.

Grace Hannah Tipping became step-mother to Joseph's two surviving daughters and the couple went on to add five further children, born in Stratford on Avon: 

5. Reginald Henry Tipping b. 6 Mar 1901 (Volume 06D Page 691)
6. Ernest Edward Joy Tipping b. 30 Nov 1902 (Volume 06D Page 703)
7. Marjorie Tipping b. 28 Sep 1904 (Volume 06D Page 679)
8. William Tarplee Tipping b. 18 Nov 1907 (Volume 06D Page 676)
9. Herbert Roy Tipping b. 13 Jan 1910 (Volume 06D Page 679)

In 1901, living at Miles Bush, Old Stratford and Drayton, Stratford on Avon, were Joseph E Tipping (44) Labourer on farm with Grace H Tipping (29), Elise E Tipping (13), Winifred A Tipping (10) and Reginald H Tipping (0).

In 1911, still at Miles Bush, Alcester Road, Stratford-on-Avon, were Joseph Edward Tipping (55) Castrator and general labourer; Grace Hannah Tipping (37), Reginald Henry Tipping (10), Ernest Edward Joy Tipping (8), Marjorie Tipping (6), William Tarplee Tipping (3) and Herbert Roy Tipping (1).

The family were still living in the Old Stratford and Drayton area in 1921.

Grace Hannah Tipping died, aged 56, on 15 Aug 1928, in Stratford-on-Avon.

In 1939, Joseph E Tipping, Market Gardener, widower, was living with his son Edward E (Ernest), at 40 Shottery Road, Stratford-Upon-Avon.

Joseph E Tipping died, aged 84, in 1941, in Stratford-on-Avon.

Thus far, I've found no further records for Elise Ellen Tipping, Joseph's eldest daughter from his first marriage after the 1901 census. Winifred Agnes Tipping (20), in 1911, was employed by widow, Mary Louisa flower (47) as a General domestic servant at Woodville, Gordon Road, Camberley, Frimley, Surrey. As yet I can find, neither marriages, nor deaths for either girl. 

1. Reginald H Tipping married Marjorie Robinson (b. 11 Jun 1905), in Warwick, in 1932. In 1939, Marjorie Tipping, married, was living with her parents, Henry and Rosina Robinson, at Brook Cottage Barford Hill, Barford, Warwick. Not located Reginald in 1939. Reginald H Tipping died, in Warwickshire, in 1985. Marjorie Tipping died in Nov 1992. 
2. Ernest E J Tipping married Gladys Maud Dyde (b. 18 May 1908), in Stratford-on-Avon, in 1930. In 1939, listed as Edward E and Gladys M Tipping, were living at 40 Shottery Road, Stratford-Upon-Avon. Gladys M Tipping died in 1989. Ernest Edward J Tipping died, in 2003, at 100.
3. Marjorie Tipping married Charles Henry Cooke (b. 18 Jul 1903), in Shottery, Warwickshire, in 1929. In 1939, they were living at 35 Justins Avenue, Stratford-Upon-Avon. Charles Henry Cooke died on 10 Sep 1977 in Long Itchington, Warwickshire. Marjorie Cooke died in 1990.
4. William T Tipping married Grace Agnes Kathleen Worrall (b. 16 Oct 1909), in Stratford-on-Avon, in 1931. In 1939, they lived at 11 College Street, Stratford-Upon-Avon. William Tarplee Tipping died, in Stratford on Avon, in 1969. Grace Agnes K Tipping died in 2002.
5. Herbert R Tipping married Agnes Mary Bullingham (b. 16 Jan 1913) on 6 June 1936, in Shottery, Warwickshire. In 1939, they were living at 4 Church Road, Shottery, Stratford-Upon-Avon. (Shottery is most famous for Anne Hathaway's Cottage.) Herbert Roy Tipping died, in Stratford on Avon, in 1981. Agnes Mary Tipping died on 24 Jun 2001.

Frederick William Penfold and Harriet Mary Tubb

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Frederick William Penfold (b. 20 Jul 1863) in Hartfield, Sussex, son of William Penfold and Mary Ann Charlotte Gunn (m. 1851), married Harriet Mary Tubb, daughter of Edward Tubb and Sarah Elizabeth Joy in Edmonton, north London (why that area is unclear), in the second quarter of 1888.

Frederick and Harriet had five children: 

1. Harriet Mary Penfold Tubb b. 1884 Q4 in CHELSEA Vol 01A Page 338
2. George Edward Penfold b. 7 Mar 1889 in SHEPPEY Vol 02A Page 892
3. Grace Joy Penfold b. 27 Aug 1892 in DOVER Volume 02A Page 982
4. Frederick William Penfold b. 8 Oct 1896 in FULHAM Vol 01A Page 305
5. Bert Penfold b. 14 Aug 1898 in ISLE OF WIGHT Vol 02B Page 599

Looking at this succession of birth locations: i. Frederick's mother, Mary Ann Penfold (55) died in in Chelsea, in 1886, so it may well have been to her that Harriet had gone. Frederick's elder brother, John Robert Penfold, Boot Maker, was in Chelsea by 1891; ii. Sheppey makes sense that Harriet was able to return to her own mother for the birth of her first legitimate child; iii. this is the year after Frederick left the navy, so unsure why Dover (Harriet's mother's family, perhaps); iv. Fulham is where Frederick's younger brother Charles lived by 1897 and makes sense to go to his family for this birth, her own mother having died in 1895 and v. the Isle of Wight is where they'd moved in 1898.

Frederick William Penfold, had enlisted in the Royal Navy in 1878, at 15, as a Boy 2nd Class. His father had died in 1873, which may well have been motivation for going to sea. At that time he was 5ft tall, had dark brown hair, brown eyes and fair skin. He'd previously worked as a Gardener. Later, he grew to the lofty height of 5ft 5in and his complexion became ruddy. On 20 Jul 1881, his 18th birthday, Frederick signed up for a further 10 years.

Frederick William Penfold's Naval Career:

• 3 Sep 1878 - 27 Sep 1879 - HMS Boscawen training establishment, then in Portland Harbour with training ship, HMS Trafalgar (1841). While there, on 10 Sep 1879, he was promoted to Boy 1st Class.
• 28 Sep 1879 - 15 Dec 1882 - HMS Northampton (1876), joins Signals and is working his way up the signals levels from Sig 3 to Sig 2 on 3 Jan 1882. HMS Northampton was brand new at that time, completed 7 Dec 1879, so Frederick must have joined the crew in preparation and in 1879 was at Chatham. She then became the flagship of the North America and West Indies Station.

In 1881, Frederick William Penfold (18), Signal boy from Hartfield, Sussex, was listed under Royal Navy At Sea, Ships and Overseas Establishments with HMS Northampton, in Camber, Bermuda (Royal Naval Dockyard, Bermuda)

• 16 Dec 1882 - 2 Apr 1884 - HMS Duncan (1859) which had been flag ship at Sheerness since 1879. (Exactly the right time and place for Frederick to meet Harriet, who was born and lived in Sheerness. Harriet's father, Edward Tubb, died in Jan 1884. We might conclude that Harriet, 16, sought solace in Frederick.)
• 3 Apr 1884 - 30 Jun 1886 - HMS Carysfort (1878), which in 1884 and 1885, landed men for the naval brigade at Sudan (during the Mahdist War, which claimed the life of Gordon of Khartoum). During this time, there is a note on Frederick's service record saying "Mily Gaol Alexandria 42 days" (Gabbari military prison, Alexandria, Egypt). Doesn't give the exact dates or what for, but 42 days is unlikely to be too serious. Drunk maybe? Apr 1886 Mediterranean. 8 May 1886 Serving in Greek Waters. 19 Jun 1886 Malta.

Crossing Malta's Grand Harbour by Water Taxi

• 1 Jul 1886 - 2 Apr 1888 - HMS Hibernia (1804) which, from Apr 1886, had been in Malta - she became the flagship for the Royal Navy's base at Malta and stationed in the Grand Harbour. 
• 5 Apr 1888 - 14 Apr 1888 - HMS Duke of Wellington (1852), in Portsmouth. (Three of my relatives have served on this ship, including my 2x great-grandfather, Thomas Jones and James Henry Tubb, who was Harriet Mary Tubb's uncle; her father's brother.)
• 15 Apr 1888 - 31 Mar 1889 - HMS Duncan (1859), back at Sheerness. On 10 Aug 1888, Frederick became a Qualified Signalman. He and Harriet married in the previous quarter.
• 1 Apr 1889 - 17 Oct 1889 - HMS Wildfire shore establishment established at Sheerness in 1889.
• 18 Oct 1889 - 26 Nov 1889 - HMS Royal Adelaide (1828), depot ship at Devonport, Plymouth. On 18 Oct 1889, Frederick was promoted to the rank of Ship's Corporal 2nd Class.
• 27 Nov 1889 - 8 May 1890 - HMS Iron Duke (1870), which had arrived in arrived Plymouth Sound, from the Baltic in the October. 13 Dec 1889, departed Plymouth for Portland, to join up with the other part of the Channel Squadron, arriving from Portsmouth. It was then planned that the Squadron would depart Portland for winter cruise, via Arosa Bay (Ría de Arousa), Vigo (Galicia, Spain), Port Mahon (Menorca), and Morocco, returning in April. On 18 Jan 1890, Frederick attained the rank of Leading Signalman. 20 Apr 1890, arrived at Plymouth from Arosa Bay (18th), having been sent home in advance of the rest of the Channel Squadron, having a case of scarlet fever on board. 8 May 1890, paid off at Portsmouth.
• 9 May 1890 - 14 Jun 1890 - HMS Duke of Wellington (1852).
• 15 Jun 1890 - 12 Nov 1890 - HMS Serapis (1866), in Portsmouth.
• 13 Nov 1890 - 25 Nov 1890 - HMS Duke of Wellington (1852).
• 26 Nov 1890 - 9 Jul 1891 - HMS Excellent (shore establishment), the Royal Navy "stone frigate" sited on Whale Island in Portsmouth Harbour. (The third relative - James Henry Tubb and William Henry Middleton - to have spent time here near the end of their careers.)
• 10 Jul 1890 - 20 Aug 1891 - HMS Duke of Wellington (1852).

In 1891, Frederick W Penfold (27), Qualified signalman, married, is a 'Member of crew' of HMS Excellent in Portsmouth Harbour. Harriet Mary Penfold (26), Harriet M Penfold (6) and George E Penfold (2) were visiting Harriet's widowed mother, Sarah E Tubb (61) at her lodgings in Trinity Road, Minster in Sheppey.

In 1898, George Edward Penfold, son of Frederick William Penfold, Commercial Agent, of 22 West Street, Newport, was enrolled at the Newport Board School in Newport, Isle of Wight. His previous school was Board School Southsea.

But the next record we find, is on 22 Sep 1899, when George Penfold, aged 9, from Barnardo Homes, sails to Toronto, Canada on the vessel Arawa. "According to the Barnardo records [Grace Joy] was admitted to the Barnardo's Homes in England on July 22, 1899 at the age of 7 with her brother George." [Source]

In 1901, Harriet M Penfold (32) still listed as married, was at 49, Trafalgar Road, Newport, Isle of Wight, with Frederick W Penfold (4). George E Penfold, in 1901, then 12, was listed as a Domestic in the household of a David White from Scotland, in Assiniboia East, Northwest Territories, Canada. 

Frederick William Penfold, then a house painter (journeyman) of 2 Seagrave Rd, Fulham, died, aged 37, on 7 Apr 1901, of a cerebral hemorrhage (stroke) in Fulham Infirmary. His elder brother, John Robert Penfold of 52, Hogarth Buildings, Westminster is listed as the informant and was in attendance.

We read here that, "According to family hearsay Fredrick left the family at some stage prior to his death and Harriett could not keep the family together and it seems that her son George was put into a Barnardo’s Home and sent to Canada in 1899 at the age of 10." And, sadly, the trail of records does bear this out.

On 31 July 1904, G J Penfold (11) Female (Grace Joy) from Barnardo Homes sailed to Toronto, Canada on the vessel RMS Southwark.

Then on 3 May 1907, the youngest, Bert Penfold (8) from Barnardo Homes sailed to Toronto, Canada on the vessel SS Dominion.

So it wasn't just George who was sent to Barnardo Homes, but three of the children: George, Grace and Bert, who became Home Children sent to Canada: "​From the late 1860s right up to 1948, over 100,000 children of all ages were emigrated right across Canada, from the United Kingdom, to be used as indentured farm workers and domestics. Believed by Canadians to be orphans, only approximately 12 percent truly were". "For the most part, these children were not picked up from the streets but came from intact families, who, through sickness or even death of one of their parents, had fallen on hard times."

In Oct 1910, Harriet Mary Penfold (40) Domestic and Frederick William Penfold (13) at School, make their way to Quebec, Canada (and apparently on to Bracebridge, Ontario) on the vessel Lake Manitoba, travelling steerage from Liverpool. Next to Harriet's name is the stamp, British Bonus Allowed, which was was a commission paid by the Canadian government's Immigration Branch to steamship booking agents (not to the immigrants themselves).

In 1911, Fred Penfold (listed as born 1897, but immigration year 1910) was in Guelph, Wellington South, Ontario, Canada in a household with two English ladies: Letia Camocott (b. 1865) and Alice Merridon (b. 1873) Lodger. It doesn't say in what capacity, but as he would then be 15, presumably Fred was either working for them or elsewhere and boarding there. Meanwhile Bert Penfold (12) that year was a Boarder in the household of Canadian couple, George Gilbert (b. 1873) and his wife, Etta, in Muskoka, Ontario, Canada.

All three boys: George Edward, Frederick William Jr and Bert, it seems served in the Canadian Expeditionary Force, during World War I.

Grace Penfold (23) married Benjamin Folie (24), son of George Folie, on 10 Aug 1914 in Toronto, Canada. On the marriage record however, in the space where her parents names should be, it has 'unknown' written across the space, so I think we have to assume that her mother had not reencountered her.

In 1916, H M Penfold (48) Female (Harriet Mary) - immigration year 1910 - was in the household of Englishman, Charles M C Westaway (32) in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada, seemingly employed as Housekeeper.  

Harriet Mary Penfold (née Tubb) died, aged 67, on 27 Aug 1934 in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada and is buried at Woodlawn Cemetery, Saskatoon.

• George Edward Penfold married Anne Jenette Stuart. George died on 24 Sep 1972, aged 83, and is buried at Cupar Cemetery, Cupar, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada.
• Grace Joy Fowlie (née Penfold) died, aged 61, on 11 Aug 1954, in Arthur, Wellington County, Ontario, Canada and was buried on 14 Aug 1954 in Greenfield Cemetery, in Arthur Ontario.
• Frederick William Penfold Jr married Lula Pearl Deacon in 1923. Fred died on 15 Dec 1985 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
• Bert Penfold married Marjorie Anne Aspin on 11 Aug 1926, in Regina. Bert died, aged 69, on 28 May 1968 and is buried at Riverside Memorial Park Cemetery, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada.

Their name liveth forever

Herbert Joy Tubb and Ada Harriet Bartlett

St Corentine's Church, Cury
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Herbert Joy Tubb (b. 1865), son of Edward Tubb and Sarah Elizabeth Joy, married Ada Harriet Bartlett (b. 1870, bap. 8 Jan 1871 in Cury, Cornwall), daughter of John William Ginn Bartlett and Harriet Nanney, in the district of Helston in the 4th quarter of 1892. Baptised in Cury, brought up in Uny-Lelant, Ada was living at Boscawen, Mawgan in Meneage, Helston in 1891, where her father was a Farmer, so likely that was the venue for the marriage, where the parish church is dedicated to St Mauganus, a Welshman.

In 1891, Herbert J Tubb (25) Merchant's Clerk, had been a visitor in the household of Farmer, Samuel Trounson (58) at Penvores, Mawgan in Meneage, which was right next door on the census to the Bartlett household.

Herbert and Ada had two children:

1. John Bartlett Tubb b. 12 Jul 1893 in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 168
2. Olive Joy Tubb b. 26 Jun 1898 in HELSTON  Volume 05C Page 169

In 1901, Ada H Tubb (30) was living at Boscawen Cottage, Mawgan in Meneage with son John B Tubb (7) at school and Olive J (2). Herbert was not at home.

In 1911, the family were living at 4 Athenaeum Street Plymouth. Herbert Joy Tubb (44) Implement and machinery manager, Ada Harriet Tubb (39), John Bartlett Tubb (17) Apprentice Engineer and Olive Joy Tubb (12) at School.

Son, John Bartlett Tubb, Fleet Engineer, of 4 Athenaeum Street Plymouth enlisted in the Territorial Force Royal Engineers, on 18 Sep 1914. At 21, he was 5ft 6in tall with a 36 in chest. In reserve until 23 Mar 1915, he was then sent to Gibraltar on 24 Mar 1915, until 11 Nov 1916, where he picked up a dose of Gonorrhea (an occupational hazard in the forces?), treated in 1915 - remember this is well before the introduction of antibiotics that was not until the 1940's. (Gonorrhea: Historical outlook). He was discharged on 9 Jul 1919 at Ripon.

The family, with Herbert, Ada, John and Olive were still in Plymouth in 1921.

Olive Joy Tubb married Richard Donald Broad (b. 2 Feb 1896 in Liskard), son of William Nanscowan Broad and Louise Daniel, in Plymouth, in 1922.

Richard Donald Broad had enlisted in the brand new Royal Air Force (RAF) on 20 Apr 1918 and applied for a Temporary Commission. In Aug/Sep of that year he is listed at RAF & Army Co-Op School as 'Pilot for training'. In Nov 1918 he was assigned to 116 Squadron.

John Bartlett Tubb married Kathleen Margaret Coomb (b. 30 Sep 1896 in Truro, Cornwall), daughter of Arthur Bate Coomb (an Elementary teacher, born in Victoria, Australia) and Lucy Bennett, in Plymouth, in 1925.

Ada H Tubb died, aged 62, in Plymouth in 1932.

In 1939, Herbert Joy Tubb, Agricultural Engineer (Retired), widower, was living in the household of his son-in-law, Richard Donald Broad, Poultry, Pig and Fruit Farmer; daughter, Olive Joy Broad and grandson, David Broad (b. 12 May 1928), at Broadlands, Lifton, Tavistock, Devon, on the Devon / Cornwall border. 

Also living at Broadlands, Lifton, in 1939, in the next household was William John Rundle (b. 7 Jun 1909), Agricultural Labourer and his wife. Presumably, Rundle was working for Richard Broad. If [requires further investigation] this William John Rundle is related to the Rundle clan from Luxulyan, Cornwall - not entirely unlikely given the proximity - then, in another of those monkey puzzle tree branches of my family tree that have ceased to surprise, we could have someone distantly related to my father's mother, working for someone distantly related to my mother's father. God forbid that they could actually be related to each other! 

Meanwhile, John B Tubb, Marine Engine Fitter and Kathleen M Tubb were living at 3 Goldington Avenue, Bedford in 1939.

Herbert Joy Tubb of Broadlands, Lifton, Devon died, aged 74, on 28 May 1940, leaving effects of £1052 3s 11d (circa. £63K in 2022) to Olive Joy Broad, wife of Richard Donald Broad. There was an obituary in the Western Morning News of 30 May 1940 [that I have yet to access].

• Olive Joy Broad died, in 1971, in Sodbury, Gloucestershire.
• Richard Donald Broad died, in 1983, in Tavistock, Devon.
• Kathleen Margaret Tubb died on 17 Mar 1988 in Plymouth.
• John Bartlett Tubb died, in 1985, in Liskeard, Cornwall.
• David Broad died, in 2005, also in Liskeard, Cornwall.

Henry George Harcus and Susan Alice Tubb

Church of St. John the Divine, Chatham
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Henry George Harcus (b. 1848), son of John Harcus and Selina Patrick, married Susan Alice Tubb (b. 1852), daughter of Edward Tubb and Hannah Bussey and younger sister of Elizabeth Tubb, at St John's Church, Chatham, Kent, on 29 Dec 1872. Henry George Harcus', 24 at the time of the marriage, occupation was listed as Publican. Witnesses were Selina Mary Ann Caddy (Henry George's sister, who had married in 1870) and George Vokes. 

(With Henry George's surname mis-transcribed as Harrens on the record of the marriage, it was finding his sister's marriage and her subsequently living with their widowed mother in 1871, which led me to the correct entries.)

(St John's a Waterloo church built in 1821 and restructured in 1869, ceased being an active church in 1964, used as an art project, reopened in 2021.)

The couple don't seem to have had any children.

On 8 Mar 1875 at Maidstone Assizes (the assizes heard the most serious cases), Susanah Alice Harcus stood accused of Perjury, but the bill was ignored. I don't know the details of the case, but it's ironic that Susan appears to be in trouble with the law, when her sister married a policeman. 

That same year, on 21 Oct 1875, at Maidstone Quarter Sessions, Henry Harcus was tried for "Stealing £1, the money of George Miles, at Chatham, on 12th September, 1875". The Verdict of the Jury was "No Bill", which generally means there was not enough evidence to indict him on the alleged crime, or the prosecution decided not to pursue the case any further.

In 1881, Henry Harcus (32) Eating house keeper and wife listed as Alice S Harcus (27) from Portsmouth, Hampshire, were living at 7, Middle Street, Gillingham (7 Middle St, Brompton, Chatham, Gillingham, close to both Chatham Dockyard as well as Brompton Barracks and Kitchener Barracks).

Henry George Harcus died on 20 Feb 1887, aged 39, at that time resident in St George in the East, Middlesex and was buried at Chatham, St Mary in the Chatham, Former St Mary's Burial Ground, now Town Hall Gardens. Records show he was interred in grave 319, with his father and sister. Now reinterred, on 5 Aug 1971, in the Borough Cemetery in Maidstone Road.

The very next quarter in 1887, Susan Alice Harcus remarried in Mile End Old Town, London. As yet, I haven't been able to determine who she married.

James Henry Tubb and Susannah Bussey

HMNB Portsmouth and HMS Victory
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James Henry Tubb (b. 1 Apr 1834), son of William Tubb and Sarah Ruff - brother of Edward Tubb - married Susannah Bussey, daughter of Benjamin Bussey and Elizabeth Bowen - and sister of Hannah Bussey, on 10 Nov 1857, at the second (built 1843), St. Mary's Church, Portsea. (Not for the first time among my relatives that two brothers had married two sisters.)

James and Susannah had six children: 

1. Sarah Elizabeth Tubb b. 1858 S Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 337, bap. 6 Feb 1859 at St Mary's Church, Portsea. (Sarah Elizabeth Tubb later married Alfred Burgess Tregurtha on 12 Feb 1883. Sarah died on 25 Feb 1946. They are both buried at Williamstown Cemetery.)
2. James Alfred Tubb b. 24 Dec 1861, GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 424, bap. 23 Feb 1862 at St Mary's Church, Portsea. (James Alfred Tubb married Evelyn Winch. James Alfred Tubb died on  23 Nov 1918 (aged 56) and is buried at Williamstown Cemetery, Williamstown, Victoria, Australia.)
3. William Henry Tubb b. 1863 D Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 8, bap. 1 Jan 1865 at All Saints' Church, Southampton (regularly attended by author Jane Austen while she lived in Southampton and Pre-Raphaelite painter Sir John Everett Millais was baptised there.) Not included in the family grave in Australia, there was, however, a William Henry Tubb of the right vintage, who may have returned to Portsmouth.
4. George Ernest Tubb b. 1866 J Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 65, bap. 8 Jul 1866, as George Emett Tubb, in Freemantle. He married Margaret Curtis, in Victoria, Australia in 1891. George Ernest Tubb, son of James Henry and Susan Tubb, died in Rylstone, New South Wales, in 1938.
5. Nelly Tubb b. 1868 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 471. (Nelly Tubb married Walter Beverley Wood in Victoria, Australia, in 1890. Nelly Wood died, aged 25-26, on 12 Apr 1895.)
6. Minnie Beatrice Tubb b. 1877 in Australia. (Minnie Beatrice Tubb married Henry John Manderson. Minnie died on 6 Jul 1967.)

James Tubb, from Landport, Hants, born 1 Apr 1834, 5ft 8in tall, with fair complexion, brown hair and grey eyes, had enlisted in the Royal Navy as a Boy First Class at 16, in 1850. James Tubb (16), Sailor was listed on the 1851 census in his parent's house, in Marylebone Street, Portsea.

James Henry Tubb's Naval Career: 

• HMS Victory - 15 Mar 1850 to 21 Jun 1851. Not the obsolete ship, but the Shore Establishment to which her name had been given.
• HMS Retribution (1844) - 22 Jun 1851 to 14 Dec 1851. A a wooden paddle frigate. [Naval Database] 21 Jun 1851 Orders received to prepare to take troops to the Cape of Good Hope with HMS Sidon (1846). 30 Aug 1851 Cape of Good Hope.

The Russian (Crimean War) War of 1854 - 1856:

• HMS Britannia (1820) - 15 Dec 1851 to 13 Mar 1855. Oct 1853 Circa. At the Dardanelles 970 men, Vice-Admiral J. W. D. Dundas. Captain T. W. Carter, with rest of Mediterranean Fleet. 17 Oct 1854 1st Bombardment of Sebastopol. Siege of Sevastopol (1854–1855)
• HMS Nile (1839) - 14 Mar 1855 to 20 Apr 1857. [Naval Database] Crimean War in the Baltic: On 18 September 1855, Nile's boats boarded and burnt some Russian vessels, reportedly near Hammeliski (possibly Humaliski on the island of Björkö, now called Primorsk, Leningrad Oblast) 20 Sep 1855 Nile and 3 gunboats detained the vessels Victoria and the Ottawa. 4 Feb 1856 Devonport. In Harbour. 24 Feb 1856 Devonport. 26 Feb 1856 arrived at Spithead from Plymouth to join the Baltic Fleet. 23 Apr 1856, Present at Fleet Review, Spithead; under Captain Mundy

This is the second of my relatives to have served in the Baltic during the Crimean War and also the second to have taken part in the 1856 Royal Fleet Review. At the review, the HMS Duke of Wellington was at the head of the Port line, while, according to the report in the The Illustrated London News, 26 April 1856, "Abreast of the Port line the Royal George led the Starboard [...] Then came the Nile ..." So not only were both sides of my family represented at the Review, they were on both sides of the line and their ships almost side-by-side.

• Still with HMS Nile until 20 Apr 1857, on the North America and West Indies Station. 29 Jan 1857 arrived Havana (Cuba) from Port Royal (Jamaica). 3 Feb 1857 departed Havana for Bermuda.
• On 21 Apr 1857 until 8 Feb 1858, James was assigned to HMS Excellent (shore establishment), the "stone frigate", sited on Whale Island near Portsmouth. (Again, not the only family member to have spent time at HMS Excellent.) It was while he was stationed here that James Henry Tubb had married Susannah Bussey.

HMS Marlborough in Valletta harbour, sometime between 1858 and 1864.

• From 9 Feb 1858 until 22 Mar 1861, assigned to HMS Marlborough (1855) which will have taken him back to the Mediterranean. Feb 1858 Commissioned, Delayed sailing 128 days due to a lack of men. 1860 Flag Ship, Mediterranean. 22 Mar 1861 Paid off.

In 1861, James Tubb (27) Seaman RN, is listed as living in Landport View, Portsea, with wife Susan Tubb (26) and daughter, Sarah Tubb (2).

• From 23 Mar 1861 to 14 Apr 1862 back at HMS Excellent.
• From 15 Apr 1862 through to 7 Aug 1866, James was with HMS Boscawen (1844), which from Feb/Mar of 1862 had been hulked as a Boys training ship in Southampton Water. (This explains son William Henry Tubb's baptism taking place in Southampton, in 1865.)
• A third stint at HMS Excellent from 8 Aug 1866 to 5 Oct 1867.

Taken at Williamstown, Victoria,
between 1870 and 1879.
Port broadside view of the wooden
steam battleship HMVS Nelson.

Then from 6 Oct 1867 to 14 Feb 1868, James was with HMS Nelson (1814). Given his history, I'd first thought they'd mean the shore establishment of the same name, but it was, in fact, an actual ship. Nelson was given to the colony of Victoria, and sailed for Australia in October 1867, thus James was on that handover voyage. Clearly, this also gave him the opportunity to see that part of Australia that the family would later make their home.

Back in Portsmouth between 15 Feb 1868 and 1 Mar 1869, James was, once more, assigned to HMS Victory shore establishment. 

James' final assignment, from 2 Mar 1869 until his retirement from the Royal Navy on 31 Dec 1870, was with HMS Duke of Wellington (1852) - coincidentally also my 2x great-grandfather's final ship in 1856 - at which time she replaced HMS Victory as flagship of the Port Admiral at Portsmouth (with Victory becoming her tender), her duties consisting of firing salutes to passing dignitaries, such as Queen Victoria on her way to Osborne House. As a Gunner's Mate since 6 Sep 1860, James may have helped fire those salutes.

In 1871, Susan Tubb (37) Seaman's wife, was living at 11 Besant Terrace, Portsea with Sarah (12), James (9), William (7), Ernest (5) and 'Millie' (Nelly) (3).

''Queen of Nations'' by Richard Ball Spencer

On 19 Mar 1873, Susan Tubb (38), Sarah E (14), James A (10), Wm Hy (9), George E (6) and Nelly (4), departed from Plymouth - the one in Devon, England, not America - on the clipper, Queen of Nations. They arrived in Melbourne after a journey of around 140 days. 

I've [so far] not seen a record of how James Henry got back to Australia, but I wouldn't mind betting he worked his passage as a merchant seamen.

Susan Tubb (née Bussey) died on 20 Aug 1912 and is buried in Williamstown Cemetery, Williamstown, Victoria, Australia. She will have been 80.

James Henry Tubb died on 8 Nov 1922, and is also buried in Williamstown Cemetery, Williamstown, Victoria, Australia. He will have been 88.

The Family Grave of J H Tubb at Williamstown Cemetery, Victoria, Australia Photo: Suzy & Rob

James Tubb and Sarah Pearce

St. Mary's Church - Alverstoke
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Colin Babb - geograph.org.uk/p/1093207

James Tubb (bap. 1809), son of William Tubb and Sarah Chard and younger brother of this William Tubb, married Sarah Pearce, daughter of Thomas Pearce and Sarah Hall, at Alverstoke, on 27 Oct 1830. 

James and Sarah had nine children, the first two of whom were baptised in the 12th Century, first St Mary's Church, Portsea.

1. Sarah Pierce (sic) Tubb b. 26 Feb 1830, bap. 18 January 1835 
2. James Thomas Tubb b. 6 November 1833, bap. 18 January 1835 
3. Emma Tubb b. 1838 M Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 143
4. William Tubb b. 1840 D Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 109
5. Alfred Tubb b. 1843 J Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 122 (Died 1844 M Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 102)
6. Caroline Tubb b. 1844 D Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 122
7. Henry Edward Tubb b. 1847 J Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 126
8. Mary Ann Tubb b. 1849 D Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 173
9. Elizabeth Tubb b. 1853 J Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 02B Page 401

Once again, as civil registration was introduced, baptisms were abandoned.

In 1851, we find this family living in Upper Church Road, Portsea with James Tubb (42) Shipwright at Dock Yard; wife Sarah Tubb (40), daughter Sarah Tubb (20), James Tubb (17), Shipwright's Apprentice; Emma Tubb (13), William Tubb (10), Caroline Tubb (6), Henry Tubb (4), Mary Tubb (1) and Sarah's father, Thomas Pearce (74), Widower, Retired Grocer.

In 1871, James Tubb (61) Superannuated Shipwright, Sarah Tubb (60), Mary A Tubb (21) and Elizabeth Tubb (17), were at Church Path, North, Portsea.

Shortly before his 65th birthday, James Tubb, DOB 30 Apr 1809, from Portsea, Hampshire, 5ft 7in tall, with grey hair, blue eyes and a fair complexion, enlisted in the Royal Navy as a Shipwright. From 1 Jan 1874 until 13 Feb 1875, he was assigned to HMS Asia, flagship of the Admiral-Superintendent of Portsmouth Dockyard. From 31 Mar 1875 to 31 Mar 1876 and from 1 Apr 1876 to 9 Jun 1877, he was assigned to HMS St Vincent, which had been commissioned as a training ship in 1862, and specifically as a training ship for boys, moored permanently at Haslar from 1870. He may have been maintaining the vessel, or perhaps teaching. If I were to speculate, my feeling is that this already long-standing dockyard employee had been taken into Royal Navy service at such a 'ripe age' to provide him with a pension.

In 1881, James Tubb (73), Shipwright Pensioner and Sarah Tubb (70), were living at 2, Charles Street, Portsea, with William Jeffery (7), listed as their nephew. He was their grandson, William James Jeffery, born 1874, son of their youngest daughter, Elizabeth, who married William Jeffery in 1872.

In 1891, James Tubb (81), Retired Shipwright and Sarah Tubb (80) were living in Church Path North, Portsea, with the house to themselves.

After more than 65 years of marriage, both James Tubb (87) and Sarah Tubb (85) died in the same, third, quarter of 1896, on Portsea Island.

William Tubb and Jane Bound

The first 12th Century St. Mary's Church, Kingston, Portsea

William Tubb, purportedly born in 1752 - I haven't personally seen the record which confirms this - married Jane Bound (bap. 7 Mar 1749), daughter of John Bound, at the 12th Century St Mary's Church, Portsea on 8 Nov 1773.

Records point to William and Jane having six children:

1. Jane Atkins Tubb bap. 15 Jan 1775 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
2. William Tubb bap. 17 Nov 1776 (possibly buried 29 Jan 1778)
3. Mary Tubb bap. 3 Jan 1779 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
4. John Tubb bap. 27 May 1781 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
5. Sarah Tubb bap. 27 May 1781 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
6. William Tubb bap. 12 Aug 1787 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea

It's probably safe to conclude that either William or Jane's mother's maiden name was Atkins. And, since son John is named for Jane's father, the possibility that William is named after their father and also after their grandfather.

Although John and Sarah were both baptised together in 1781, I don't think there is any reason to assume that they were twins. On the other hand, I think we can, sadly, assume that the William born in 1776 died as an infant, because the name was re-used for the last child. Having only seen the transcripts of these records, it may be possible that the originals give further clues.

Jane Tubb (née Bound) of Sun Street, Portsea, died, aged 77, and was buried on 9 Sep 1827 in 'the Parish Of Portsea, County Of Southampton' (the county of Hampshire is named after Southampton, clearly this was then still used). 

There is no record that relates to the death of William Tubb (b. 1752).

William Tubb and Sarah Chard

The nave at St Mary's, Portsea
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Basher Eyre - geograph.org.uk/p/1379010

William Tubb (b. 1785), son of William Tubb and Jane Bound, married Sarah Chard, who was reputedly the daughter of George Chard and Ann Hellier, at St Mary's Church, Portsea on 27 Dec 1807. They will, of course, have married in the first church on that site, not the one shown, which is the third incarnation, but there was a shortage of photos of the original one for some reason. 

The font at St Alban's, Copnor
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Basher Eyre
geograph.org.uk/p/1493684

This William and Sarah appear to have had eight children, all of whom were baptised also in that first church of St Mary's. The font still exists, now located in St Alban's Church, Copnor, Portsmouth.

1. William Tubb bap. 1 May 1808
2. James Tubb bap. 23 May 1809
3. Samuel Tubb bap. 16 Jun 1811
4. Sarah Jane Tubb bap. 3 Jul 1814
5. Mary Tubb bap. 3 Jul 1814
6. John Tubb bap. 12 Feb 1816
7. Thomas Tubb bap. 24 Apr 1820
8. Alfred Tubb bap. 2 Oct 1820

Although Sarah Jane and Mary were baptised together in 1814, Sarah Jane was born on 30 Sep 1812. (There's a burial of a Jane Tubb, aged 1, on 28 Aug 1814, which I think, sadly, might relate to this child.) 

Thomas' age on later censuses suggest he was born in either 1818 or 1819.

This was the same period, same church (and font) in which Isambard Kingdom Brunel and Charles Dickens were baptised, in 1806 and 1812, respectively. Even though the Brunel family moved to London in 1808 and the Dickens only moved into the area in 1809, the chance that this Tubb family and those of Brunel or Dickens - even if not moving in the same circles - being under the same roof at the same time, has to be quite high. It's a quite mind-blowing thought really.

Sarah Tubb (née Chard) died, aged 45, and was buried, on 4 May 1831, at St Mary's Church, Portsea.

In 1841, William Tubb (54) was living in the household of daughter Mary (27) and son-in-law, John Windel (37) in Bow Street, Portsea. 

In 1851, William Tubb (64) Widower, Ropemaker is still, listed as a visitor, in the household of John and Mary Windel in Bow Street.

Still in Portsea in 1871, William Tubb died, aged 87, in 1872.

William Tubb and Sarah Ruff

St Mary's Church, Alverstoke
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Barry Shimmon - geograph.org.uk/p/2255172

William Tubb (b. 1808), son of William Tubb and Sarah Chard, married Sarah Ruff, daughter of William Ruff and Martha Preston, in Alverstoke, Gosport on 27 Jul 1827. 

William and Sarah had twelve children:

1. Henry Tubb bap. 12 Jun 1825 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
2. Edward Tubb bap. 18 Nov 1827 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
3. William Tubb bap. 30 Mar 1828 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
4. Sarah Maria Tubb bap. 11 Jul 1830 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
5. Elizabeth Jane Tubb bap. 30 Sep 1832 at St Mary's Church, Portsea (Jane Tubb (3) was buried at St Mary's, on 22 Mar 1835.)
6. James Henry Tubb b. 1 Apr 1834, bap. 6 Jul 1834 at St Mary's, Portsea
7. Jane Tubb bap. 21 Aug 1836 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
8. Amelia Tubb b. 1838 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 07 Page 120, bap. 3 Feb 1839 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
9. Martha Louisa Tubb b. 1841 M Quarter Volume 07 Page 137
10. Mary Ann Tubb b. 1843 M Quarter Volume 07 Page 136
11. Alfred Tubb b. 1844 D Quarter Volume 07 Page 129
12. Lavinia Tubb b. 1851 M Quarter Volume 07 Page 160, died, aged 2, in 1853 S Quarter Volume 02B Page 232, buried 2 Oct 1853, in Portsea.

They seem to have given up on baptisms after Amelia. This is not unusual and is something I've seen elsewhere, once civil registration had been introduced.

Edward was probably older than his baptism suggests, particularly with only 4 months between his and William's baptism. Likely Edward was also born before the marriage and William already on the way when they tied the knot. 

In 1841, William Tubb (35), Sarah Tubb (30), William Tubb (13), Sarah Tubb (11), James Tubb (7), Jane Tubb (5), Amelia Tubb (3) and Louisa Tubb (0) were listed in 'Marie Lee Borne Street' (Marylebone Street). Sons Henry Tubb (15) and Edward Tubb (13), and grandfather, William Tubb (54), were all residing in the household of John Windel (37) in Bow Street, Portsea. 

In 1851, still in Marylebone Street were William Tubb (42) Master Brush Maker, Sarah Tubb (42); married daughter, Sarah Donset (21); James Tubb (16), Sailor; Jane Tubb (14), Louisa Tubb (9), Mary Ann Tubb (7), Alfred Tubb (6) and Louisa (sic) - must be Lavinia (0). Amelia Tubb (12) was staying with her aunt and uncle James and Jane Frankham in Waterloo Street, Portsea.

Son William Tubb, born 1828, died, aged 26, in Alverstoke, Hampshire and was buried, on 19 Feb 1854 at St Mary's Church, Portsea.

Once more at Marylebone Street, in 1861, we find just William Tubbs (sic) (52), Brush Maker with wife Sarah Tubbs (sic) (52).

In 1871, in Landport, were William Tubb (62), Brush Maker, Sarah Tubb (62), daughter Louisa Nichlas (29) Widowed and granddaughter, Lydia Nichlas (5). 

William Tubb died in 1878, listed as 71 and is buried possibly at Kingston Cemetery. Sarah Tubb (née Ruff) died the following year of 1879. She was 71. Records suggest she is buried at St Mary's Church, Portsea.