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Friday 29 December 2023

Henry George Harcus and Susan Alice Tubb

Church of St. John the Divine, Chatham
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(St John's a Waterloo church built in 1821 and restructured in 1869, ceased being an active church in 1964, was then used as an art project and finally reopened in 2021.)

Henry George Harcus (b. 1848), son of John Harcus and Selina Patrick, married Susan Alice Tubb (b. 1852), daughter of Edward Tubb and Hannah Bussey and younger sister of Elizabeth Tubb, at St John's Church, Chatham, Kent, on 29 Dec 1872. Henry George Harcus, 24 at the time of the marriage, occupation was listed as Publican. Witnesses were Selina Mary Ann Caddy (Henry George's sister, who had married in 1870) and George Vokes. 

The couple don't seem to have had any children.

On 8 Mar 1875 at Maidstone Assizes, Susanah Alice Harcus stood accused of Perjury, but the bill was ignored. I don't know the details of the case. 

That same year, on 21 Oct 1875, at Maidstone Quarter Sessions, Henry Harcus was tried for "Stealing £1, the money of George Miles, at Chatham, on 12th September, 1875". The Verdict of the Jury was "No Bill", which generally means there was not enough evidence to indict him on the alleged crime.

In 1881, Henry Harcus (32) Eating house keeper and wife listed as Alice S Harcus (27) from Portsmouth, Hampshire, were living at 7, Middle Street, Gillingham (7 Middle St, Chatham, Gillingham, close to both Chatham Dockyard as well as Brompton Barracks and Kitchener Barracks).

Henry George Harcus died on 20 Feb 1887, aged 39, at that time resident in St George in the East, Middlesex and was buried at Chatham, St Mary in the Chatham, Former St Mary's Burial Ground, now Town Hall Gardens. Records show he was interred in grave 319, with his father and sister. Now reinterred, on 5 Aug 1971, in the Borough Cemetery in Maidstone Road.

In Q2 1887, Susan Alice Harcus remarried in Mile End Old Town

Wednesday 27 December 2023

William Tubb and Sarah Chard

The nave at St Mary's, Portsea
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William Tubb (b. 1785), son of William Tubb and Jane Bound, married Sarah Chard (bap. 2 Feb 1787 at St James' Church, Poole), daughter of George Chard and Ann Hellier, at St Mary's Church, Portsea on 27 Dec 1807

The font at St Alban's, Copnor
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William and Sarah Tubb appear to have had eleven children, all baptised also in the first church of St Mary's. The font still exists, but is now located in St Alban's Church, Copnor.
  1. William Tubb bap. 1 May 1808
  2. James Tubb b. 30 Apr 1809, bap. 23 May 1809
  3. Samuel Tubb bap. 16 Jun 1811
  4. Sarah Jane Tubb b. 30 Sep 1812, bap. 3 Jul 1814 
  5. Mary Tubb b. 15 Jan 1814, also bap. 3 Jul 1814 
  6. John Tubb bap. 12 Feb 1816
  7. Thomas Tubb bap. 24 Apr 1820 (Later records suggest he was probably born in 1818.)
  8. Alfred Tubb bap. 2 Oct 1820
  9. Hannah Tubb bap. 23 Nov 1823. Buried 27 Aug 1826, also at St Mary's.
  10. Henry Tubb bap. 12 Jun 1825
  11. Edward Tubb bap. 18 Nov 1827
The baptism records for Mary, John, Thomas, Alfred, Hannah, Henry and Edward all list their father as Ropemaker of George's Row.

This was the same period, same church (& font) in which Isambard Kingdom Brunel and Charles Dickens were baptised, in 1806 and 1812, respectively. Even though the Brunel family moved away to London in 1808 and the Dickens only moved into the area in 1809, the chance that this Tubb family and those of Brunel or Dickens - even if not moving in the same circles - being under the same roof at the same time, has to be quite high. 

Sarah Tubb of George's Row, died at 45, and was buried, on 4 May 1831.

Alfred Tubb must have died around 1841. There is no death or burial record (abroad or at sea maybe?), the Index To Death Duty Registers list his father, William Tubb of 12 Bow Street, Landport, Portsea as Administrator.

In 1841, William Tubb (54) was living in the household of daughter Mary (27) and son-in-law, John Windel (37) in Bow Street, Portsea, along with his youngest two sons Henry Tubb (15) and Edward Tubb (13). 

 (The Portsmouth Encycopedia says, "Bow Street ran east from Commercial Road just north of the Railway Terminus (1847) (now Portsmouth & Southsea Station) to Dorset Street. Bow Street was later re-named Station Street.")

In 1851, William Tubb (64) Widower, Ropemaker was once more listed merely as a visitor, in the household of John and Mary Windel in Bow Street, Portsea, this time along with just his son Henry Tubb (25) Ropemaker.

In 1861, William Tubb (76) Superannuated Rope Maker (who said he was from Poole, Dorset, but this was actually where his late wife was from), was living at 33, Bow Street, Portsea and had gone back to being the head of the household after the death of his son-in-law, John Windell in January of that year. Living there with him were his daughter, Mary Windell (48) Widow; Thomas Noble (33) Coppersmith from Newport IOW, Grandson-in-law; Sarah A Noble (29) Wife of Coppersmith, Granddaughter-in-law (Sarah Ann Windell, as was, was Mary's step-daughter); Ellen Windell (17), Edward Windell (6) and Eliza Noble (2), also listed as a Granddaughter, but if we were being pedantic, she was actually William's step-great-granddaughter.

Son Samuel Tubb (58) Seaman of Bow Street, Landport, died on 19 Apr 1869 and was buried on 22 Apr 1869 at Portsea Cemetery. 

In 1871, William Tubb (85) Rope Maker was still in Bow Street, Portsea, then in the household of Alfred John Rees (27), listed as his wife's grandfather. (Alfred's wife, Ellen, was the daughter of John and Mary Windel.) That year, Henry Tubb (45) Rope spinner from Landport, Hants was an Inmate at the Alverstoke House of Industry, Near Gosport. (The full title of the Alverstoke Workhouse was the House of Industry.) Henry then just disappeared.

William Tubb, Rope Maker of Bow Street, Landport, died on 19 Aug 1872, aged 87, and was buried on 23 Aug 1872 at Portsea Cemetery.

Wednesday 13 December 2023

Thomas Tubb and Louisa Wearn

King Street, Portsmouth
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Thomas Tubb, Bachelor, Labourer from Bow Street, Portsea, son of William Tubb and Sarah Chard, married Lousia Wearn, daughter of John Wearn and Mary Billinger, at St Mary's Church, Portsea on 28 Feb 1841

Thomas and Louisa had nine children in total:
  1. Thomas Alfred Tubb b. 1841 S Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 120. Died, aged 1, in 1842 D Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 101 and was buried on 30 Oct 1842 at St Mary's, Portsea.
  2. Louisa Ann Tubb b. 1843 S Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 Page 131
  3. Mary Tubb b. 1845 J Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 Page 128
  4. Sarah Tubb b. 1848 J Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 Page 140
  5. Samuel Henry Tubb. b. 1852 M Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 02B Page 402. Died, aged 19, in 1871  D Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 02B Page 246 and buried on 29 Oct 1871 at St Mary's, Portsea. See below.
  6. Hannah Tubb b. 1854 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 364. Daughter of Thomas & Louisa Tubb of Bow Street, Landport, died aged 1, and was buried on 9 May 1856 at Kingston Cemetery.
  7. Emma Jane Tubb b. 24 Mar 1857 J Qtr in PORTSEA Vol 02B Page 383
  8. Frances Tubb b. 1860 J Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 02B Page 371. Died, aged 47, in 1907 D Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Vol 02B Page 273.
  9. Charlotte Elizabeth Tubb b. 1863 M Qtr in PORTSEA Vol 02B Page 457
In 1841, Thomas Tubb (22) Brush Maker and Louisa Tubb (20) were living in the Borough of Portsmouth, Parish of Portsea (Exact address unreadable).

In 1851, Thomas Tubb (33) Labourer was living at 18, Bow Street, Portsea (Bow Street was later re-named Station Street) with Louisa Tubb (27), Louisa Tubb (8), Mary Tubb (6), Sarah Tubb (3), John Silkcrialk (81) Visitor and his daughter Ann Silkcrialk (36) and Charles Collins (44) Lodger.

In 1861, living at 45, Bow Street, Portsea, were Thomas Tubb (45) Brush maker; Louisa Tubb (39) Stay maker; Louisa A Tubb (17) Stay maker; Sarah Tubb (13), Samuel H Tubb (9), Emma J Tubb (4), Frances Tubb (1), as well as Mary Wearn (82) Widow, who was Louisa's mother (who died in 1869).

In 1871, still at 45, Bow Street, Portsea, were Thomas Tubb (54) Brush maker; Louisa Tubb (49) Monthly nurse; Samuel Tubb (19) Sawyer; Emma Tubb (14), Fanny [Frances] Tubb (11) and [Charlotte] Elizabeth Tubb (7). Among those also living at that address at that time was John Johnson (50) Ship's Caulker from Sidlesham (nr Chichester), Sussex, Lodger.

Many newspapers nationally carried the story, on 27 Oct 1871, of A FATAL CASE OF SOMNAMBULISM. "An inquest was held before the Portsmouth coroner (Mr W H Garrington) on Tuesday evening on the body of Samuel Henry Tubb. The deceased, a young man of 19 years of age, was an inmate of the Workhouse, his intellect being impaired, and he was in the habit of walking in his sleep. A few evenings ago the attendant in his ward heard a noise, and on going outside found the deceased lying on the ground in a state of insensibility. The window of the ward had been unfastened, and it is supposed that the deceased then got out, falling onto the yard, a depth of sixteen feet. The medical officer (Dr Page) was called, but the deceased never recovered sufficiently to give and account of the occurrence, and died from concussion of the brain. The jury returned a verdict of Accidental Death."

The Hampshire Advertiser, on 28 Oct 1871, reported it as FATAL ACCIDENT TO A LUNATIC and added the detail that, "Louisa Tubb, the wife of Thomas Tubb, a hawker, residing in Bow Street, Landport, having identified the body as that of her son, said he was a labourer and lived at home with her. In July of last year he was admitted to the lunatic ward of the workhouse, and never complained of the treatment he received there. She and other members of the family were allowed to visit him, and they were all satisfied that he was well cared for." Dr Page added, "the deceased was very inoffensive, and did not require restraint. He was classed among the imbecile patients ..."

Thomas Tubb, Brush maker, with his address listed as Union House Portsea (Workhouse, later St Mary's Hospital, Portsmouth), died aged 56 and was buried from St Mary's church on 2 Aug 1874, at Kingston Cemetery.

And so, Louisa Ann Tubb (52) Widow of Bow Street, daughter of John Wearn, married John Johnson (52) Carpenter, Bachelor, also of Bow Street (i.e. the Lodger), son of Henry Johnson, at St Mary's, Portsea on 14 Apr 1875.

In 1881, at 45, Bow Street, Portsea, John Johnson (60) Carpenter from Chichester, Sussex, was then head of the household, with Louisa Johnson (59), Emma Tubb (23) Machinist sempstress; Fanny Tubb (21) Stay boner; Elizabeth Tubb (18) Dress maker (apprentice) - all listed as Daughter-in-law, when they are really Step-daughters, but these terms were often used interchangeably in this period - and [Samuel] Henry Tollervey (9) Grandson - son of Louisa Ann Tubb, who had married John Tollervey in 1853.

In 1891, John Johnson (70) Naval pensioner; Louisa Johnson (68) and Emma J Tubb (33) Stay machinist, were living at 4, King Street, Portsea. Fanny Tubb (30) Charwoman, was a Lodger in the household of William J Morgan (68) Tailor in Upper Church Path, Portsea.

Fanny Tubb (33), then of 13 Upper Church Path, Portsmouth, was admitted to St James' Hospital, Portsmouth, still a mental health facility, on 12 Jan 1894, suffering from Delusional Insanity, where she died on 21 Oct 1907.

There is a record of the death of John Johnson (75) in 1897 M Quarter in PETWORTH Volume 02B Page 227. He could have still had family in Sussex, but my feeling is that being old and perhaps infirm and unable to work and needing healthcare, he could have been sent back to the nearest workhouse to his place of birth, which may well have been the Workhouse in Petworth.

In 1901, Louisa Johnson (78) Widow, Living on Parish relief, was living at 2, King Street, Portsmouth, with Emma Tubb (43) Stay machinist and Charles Coles (73) Widower, Carpenter (retired) from Boxgrove, Sussex, Boarder. 

Louisa Ann Johnson died, aged 81, in Portsmouth, in 1905.

Sunday 10 December 2023

John Windell and Mary Tubb

Church of St Mary's, Portsea
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John Windell (b. 29 Jun 1805), son of John Windel and Mary Smith, first married Sarah Exell (bap. 22 Apr 1804), daughter of Joseph Exell and Jane Hawks, at St Mary's Church, Portsea, on 6 Feb 1831.

John and Sarah had two daughters:
  1. Sarah Anne Windell bap. 21 Aug 1831
  2. Mary Jane Windell bap. 13 Apr 1834. Died at 3M on 8 Jul 1834, buried 13 Jul 1834, of John & Sarah Windell of Spring Gardens, Landport
Both baptised at St Mary's, Portsea, with John's occupation listed as Joiner.

Sarah Windell (30), wife of John Windell of Spring Gardens, Landport, died on 28 Mar 1834 and was buried on 6 Apr 1834, at Portsea Cemetery.

Meanwhile, Mary Tubb (b. 1814) daughter of William Tubb and Sarah Chard, had married John Fleming (b. 1810), Mariner, at St Mary's Church, Alverstoke, on 20 Feb 1832. Only six months later, John Fleming (22), Midshipman died at Haslar Hospital (Royal Hospital Haslar), Alverstoke and was buried from St Luke's Chapel, Haslar, on 22 Aug 1832. Mary was six months pregnant.

John and Mary Fleming had one daughter:
  1. Mary Ann Fleming b. 6 Nov 1832, obviously, her father's posthumous child, bap. 15 May 1836 at St Mary's, Portsea
Therefore, it was Mary Fleming, widow, who married widower, John Windell at St Mary's, Portsea on 8 Aug 1835. Witnesses to this marriage were Eliza Windell and a Benjamin Franklin (probably not this one).

John and Mary Windell produced another eight children:
  1. John William Windell bap. 15 May 1836 at St Mary's, Portsea
  2. Eliza Emma Windell b. 1838 J Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 Page 124
  3. Henry Alfred Windell b. 1842 M Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 Page 144
  4. Ellen Windell b. 1844 J Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 Page 141
  5. Louisa Elizabeth Windell b. 1846 J Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 152. Died, aged 6 in 1852 S Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION  Volume 02B  Page 241 and buried on 8 Aug 1852 at St Mary's
  6. Amelia Windell b. 1848 M Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 Page 149. Died aged 8M, in 1848 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 07 Page 110 and was buried on 17 Oct 1848 at St Mary's, Portsea
  7. Thomas Edward Windell b. 1850 M Quarter in PORTSEA Vol 07 153. Died at 2M in 1850 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 07 Page 118 and was buried on 17 Feb 1850 at St Mary's, Portsea
  8. Edward Charles Windell reg. 1855 M Qtr in PORTSEA Vol 02B 388.
Baptisms were abandoned once Civil Registration is introduced.

In 1841, John Windell (37) Joiner, was living in Bow Street, Portsea, with Mary Windell (27), Sarah Windell (9), Mary Windell (8)*, John Windell (6), Eliza Windell (3), William Tubb (54) Ropemaker (Mary's widowed father); Henry Tubb (15) and Edward Tubb (13) - Mary's brothers.

In 1851, at 21, Bow Street, Portsea, were John Windell (46) Joiner H M D Y; Mary Windell (37), Sarah Windell (19), Mary Windell (17)*, John Windell (15), Eliza Windell (13), Henry Windell (9), Ellen Windell (6), Elizabeth Windell (4), William Tubb (64) Ropemaker; Henry Tubb (25) Ropemaker.

* Listed as Mary Windell, this is actually Mary Ann Fleming (b. 1832).

John Windell, age estimated as 58, of Bow Street, Landport, died on 4 Jan 1861 and was buried on 13 Jan 1861 at Portsea Cemetery.

In 1861, Mary Windell (48) widow, was living at 33, Bow Street, Portsea, with her father William Tubb (76), then the head of the family after her husband's death, with Ellen Windell (17) and Edward Windell (6).

Mary Windell, Widow, of Bow Street, Landport, died aged 53 on 15 Sep 1867 and was buried on 19 Sep 1867, at Portsea Cemetery.

  • Youngest son, Edward Windell, joined the Royal Navy as a stoker on 7 Apr 1873, giving his date of birth as 25 Dec 1851, making himself three years older than he was. He was assigned to HMS Asia (1824) then and on several other occasions throughout his career. In 1881, Edward Windell (29) Leading Stoker, Royal Navy At Sea, Ships and Overseas Establishments was with HMS London (1840) in Zanzibar, East Indies. He was with HMS London from 1 Sep 1880 to 22 Jan 1883, during which time she was involved in the suppression of the slave trade in the area. The London Evening Standard on Sat, 6 Sep 1884 reported, "The Lords Commissioners for the Admiralty have awarded medals for long service and good conduct to the following men:-  Edward Windell leading stoker of the Asia ..." Edward was shore pensioned in 1891 and discharged in 1893. In 1891, Edward Windell (36) Brass moulder, was living with his sister, Ellen Rees at 125, Wingfield Street, Portsea. Edward Windell, aged 48, died on 21 Feb 1903 and was buried from St Mary's, Portsea on 26 Feb 1903, having never married.

Thursday 7 December 2023

William Ball and Sarah Jane Tubb & Joseph Leach

St Mary's Portsea
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William Ball (b. 1806), Bachelor, married Sarah Jane Tubb (b. 1812), daughter of William Tubb and Sarah Chard, at St Mary's Church, Portsea on 24 Apr 1832. Witnesses were Mary Ann Ball and William John Long.

William and Sarah Jane Ball had one daughter:
  1. Sarah Louisa Ball bap. 29 Sep 1833 at St Mary's, daughter of William Ball, Seaman and Sarah of Lake Lane, Portsea.
The next time we find them is in 1851, when William Ball (45) Shipwright Greenwich Pensioner from Portsea, Hampshire; Sarah Ball (39) and Sarah Louisa Coombs (18) were living in Church Path, Portsea.

Sarah Louisa Ball (18) of Church Road, Portsea, daughter of William Ball, Carpenter, had married William Coombes (26) Seaman, HMS Illustrious, listed as son of John Coombs, Shipwright, also at St Mary's Church, Portsea on 11 Jan 1850. Witnesses to their marriage were Mary Ann Horner and William Ball. William and Sarah Louisa Coombes appear to have two children: William Coombs b. 1852 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 02B Page 415 and Louisa Coombs b. 1853 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 02B Page 359. I can find no further records for any of them.

William Ball, we must assume, must have died between 1851 and 1853.

In 1853-54 Sarah Jane Ball appears to receive payment related to Greenwich Hospital out-pensioners - a final pension payment perhaps. 

On 24 Apr 1853, again at St Mary's Church, Portsea, Sarah Jane Ball, Widow, daughter of William Tubb, Ropemaker, married Joseph Leach, Blacksmith, Widower of Havant Street, listed as son of John Leach, Farmer. Witnesses were Mary Windel and Henry Tubb, Sarah Jane's sister and brother.

Once more, there don't seem to be any further records for them.

Wednesday 22 November 2023

Joseph Edward Tipping and Grace Hannah Tubb

Ann Hathaway's Cottage, Shottery, Warwickshire
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Joseph Edward Tipping (b. 4 May 1856 in Tardebigge, Worcestershire, bap. 22 Jun 1856 in Redditch), widower, son of Henry Tipping and Elizabeth Tarplee, married Grace Hannah Tubbdaughter of Edward Tubb and Sarah Elizabeth Joy, in Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, on 22 Nov 1900

In 1861, Joseph (4) son of Henry Tipping (48) Farmer of 148 Acres at Upper Bentley, Bromsgrove; in 1871, at 14, he was a pupil boarder at Birch Abbey Lane Boys School, Alcester, Warwickshire and in 1881, while his father had upgraded to 230 acres at Banks Green Farm, Webheath, Bromsgrove; Joseph (25) was Farm Bailiff at Berrow Green Farm, Martley, Worcestershire.

Joseph's previous marriage, on 20 Oct 1884, at All Saints Church in the parish of Weston-on-Avon, then in Gloucestershire, was to Mary Ellen Wareing (b. 10 Aug 1857 in Fringford, Oxfordshire), with whom he had several children: 

  1. Martha Elizabeth Tipping b. 1885 S Quarter in ALCESTER Vol 06D Page 624, bap. 4 Oct 1885 at St. Mary and All Saints, Haselor, died at the age of 5 months in 1886 M Quarter in ALCESTER Vol 06D Page 442 and buried on 25 Jan 1886 in Haselor
  2. Elise Ellen Tipping b. 1887 S Quarter in ALCESTER Volume 06D Page 615, bap. 11 Sep 1887 at St. Mary and All Saints, Haselor.
  3. Edward John Henry Tipping b. 1889 J Quarter in ALCESTER Vol 06D Page 657, bap. 4 Apr 1889 at St. Mary and All Saints, Haselor, died at 4 months in 1889 S Quarter in ALCESTER Vol 06D Page 372 and buried on 10 Aug 1889 in Haselor.
  4. Winifred Agnes Tipping b. 1890 S Quarter in ALCESTER Volume 06D Page 628, bap. 16 Jul 1890 at St. Mary and All Saints, Haselor.
In 1891, Joseph E Tipping (34) Farmer was living at Rolls Wood, Water Lane, Haselor, Alcester, Warwickshire with wife Mary E (33), Elise E (4), Winifred (0), Gertrude M Tipping (7) Niece and Charles Shirley (14) Farm Servant.

Then Mary Ellen Tipping died, aged 38, on 13 Apr 1896, and was buried on 17 Apr 1896, in Haselor.

Grace Hannah Tipping became step-mother to Joseph's two surviving daughters and the couple went on to add five further children: 
  1. Reginald Henry Tipping b. 6 Mar 1901 (Volume 06D Page 691)
  2. Ernest Edward Joy Tipping b. 30 Nov 1902 (Volume 06D Page 703)
  3. Marjorie Tipping b. 28 Sep 1904 (Volume 06D Page 679)
  4. William Tarplee Tipping b. 18 Nov 1907 (Volume 06D Page 676)
  5. Herbert Roy Tipping b. 13 Jan 1910 (Volume 06D Page 679)
In 1901, living at Miles Bush, Old Stratford and Drayton, Stratford on Avon, were Joseph E Tipping (44) Labourer on farm with Grace H Tipping (29), Elise E Tipping (13), Winifred A Tipping (10) and Reginald H Tipping (0).

In 1911, still at Miles Bush, Alcester Road, Stratford-on-Avon, were Joseph Edward Tipping (55) Castrator and general labourer; Grace Hannah Tipping (37), Reginald Henry Tipping (10), Ernest Edward Joy Tipping (8), Marjorie Tipping (6), William Tarplee Tipping (3) and Herbert Roy Tipping (1).

In 1921, Joseph Edward Tipping (65) Gardening 'Own Account' was still living at Miles Bush, Stratford on Avon, Old Stratford & Drayton, Warwickshire with Grace Hannah Tipping (46), Reginald Henry Tipping (20) Saddler & Harness Maker; Ernest Edward Joy Tipping (18) Boot repairer; Marjorie Tipping (16) Mother's help; William Tarplee Tipping (13) and Herbert Roy Tipping (11).

Grace Hannah Tipping died, aged 56, on 15 Aug 1928, in Stratford-on-Avon.

In 1939, Joseph E Tipping, Market Gardener, widower, was living with his son Edward E (Ernest), at 40 Shottery Road, Stratford-Upon-Avon.

Joseph E Tipping died, aged 84, in 1941, in Stratford-on-Avon.

Thus far, I've found no further records for Elise Ellen Tipping, Joseph's eldest daughter from his first marriage after the 1901 census. Winifred Agnes Tipping (20), in 1911, was employed by widow, Mary Louisa Flower (47) as a General domestic servant at Woodville, Gordon Road, Camberley, Frimley, Surrey. As yet I can find, neither marriages, nor deaths for either girl. 
  1. Reginald H Tipping married Marjorie Robinson (b. 11 Jun 1905), in Warwick, in 1932. In 1939, Marjorie Tipping, married, was living with her parents, Henry and Rosina Robinson, at Brook Cottage Barford Hill, Barford, Warwick. Not located Reginald in 1939. Reginald H Tipping died, in Warwickshire, in 1985. Marjorie Tipping died in Nov 1992. 
  2. Ernest E J Tipping married Gladys Maud Dyde (b. 18 May 1908), in Stratford-on-Avon, in 1930. In 1939, listed as Edward E and Gladys M Tipping, were living at 40 Shottery Road, Stratford-Upon-Avon. Gladys M Tipping died in 1989. Ernest Edward J Tipping died, in 2003, at 100.
  3. Marjorie Tipping married Charles Henry Cooke (b. 18 Jul 1903), in Shottery, Warwickshire, in 1929. In 1939, they were living at 35 Justins Avenue, Stratford-Upon-Avon. Charles Henry Cooke died on 10 Sep 1977 in Long Itchington, Warwickshire. Marjorie Cooke died in 1990.
  4. William T Tipping married Grace Agnes Kathleen Worrall (b. 16 Oct 1909), in Stratford-on-Avon, in 1931. In 1939, they lived at 11 College Street, Stratford-Upon-Avon. William Tarplee Tipping died, in Stratford on Avon, in 1969. Grace Agnes K Tipping died in 2002.
  5. Herbert R Tipping married Agnes Mary Bullingham (b. 16 Jan 1913) on 6 June 1936, in Shottery, Warwickshire. In 1939, they were living at 4 Church Road, Shottery, Stratford-Upon-Avon. (Shottery is most famous for Anne Hathaway's Cottage.) Herbert Roy Tipping died, in Stratford on Avon, in 1981. Agnes Mary Tipping died on 24 Jun 2001.

Friday 10 November 2023

James Henry Tubb and Susannah Bussey

HMNB Portsmouth and HMS Victory
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James Henry Tubb (b. 1 Apr 1834), son of William Tubb and Sarah Ruff, married Susannah Bussey, daughter of Benjamin Bussey and Elizabeth Bowen, on 10 Nov 1857, at the secondSt. Mary's Church, Portsea

James and Susannah had six children: 
  1. Sarah Elizabeth Tubb b. 1858 S Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 337, bap. 6 Feb 1859 at St Mary's Church, Portsea. (Sarah Elizabeth Tubb married Alfred Burgess Tregurtha on 12 Feb 1883. Sarah died on 25 Feb 1946. Both are buried at Williamstown Cemetery.)
  2. James Alfred Tubb b. 24 Dec 1861, GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 424, bap. 23 Feb 1862 at St Mary's Church, Portsea. (James Alfred Tubb married Evelyn Winch. James Alfred Tubb died on  23 Nov 1918 (aged 56) and is buried at Williamstown CemeteryWilliamstown, Victoria, Australia.)
  3. William Henry Tubb b. 1863 D Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 8, bap. 1 Jan 1865 at All Saints' Church, Southampton (regularly attended by author Jane Austen while she lived in Southampton and Pre-Raphaelite painter Sir John Everett Millais was baptised there.) Not included in the family grave in Australia, there was, a William Henry Tubb of the right vintage, who may have returned to Portsmouth.
  4. George Ernest Tubb b. 1866 J Qtr in SOUTH STONEHAM Vol 02C 65, bap. 8 Jul 1866, as George Emett Tubb, in Freemantle. Married Margaret Curtis, in Victoria, Australia in 1891. George Ernest Tubb, son of James Henry and Susan Tubb, died in Rylstone, New South Wales, in 1938.
  5. Nelly Tubb b. 1868 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 471. (Nelly Tubb married Walter Beverley Wood in Victoria, Australia, in 1890. Nelly Wood died, aged 25-26, on 12 Apr 1895.)
  6. Minnie Beatrice Tubb b. 1877 in Australia. (Minnie Beatrice Tubb married Henry John Manderson. Minnie died on 6 Jul 1967.)
James Tubb, from Landport, Hants, born 1 Apr 1834, 5ft 8in tall, with fair complexion, brown hair and grey eyes, had enlisted in the Royal Navy as a Boy First Class at 16, in 1850. James Tubb (16), Sailor was listed on the 1851 census in his parent's house, in Marylebone Street, Portsea.

James Henry Tubb's Naval Career: 
The Russian (Crimean War) War of 1854 - 1856:
This is the second of my relatives to have served in the Baltic during the Crimean War and also the second to have taken part in the 1856 Royal Fleet Review, Spithead. At the review, the HMS Duke of Wellington was at the head of the Port line, while, according to the report in the The Illustrated London News, 26 April 1856, "Abreast of the Port line the Royal George led the Starboard [...] Then came the Nile ..." So not only were both sides of my family represented at the 1856 Royal Fleet Review, they were on both sides of the line and their ships were almost side-by-side. Incredible.
HMS Marlborough in Valletta harbour, sometime between 1858 and 1864.

  • From 9 Feb 1858 until 22 Mar 1861, HMS Marlborough (1855) which will have taken him back to the Mediterranean. Feb 1858 Commissioned, Delayed sailing 128 days due to a lack of men. 1860 Flag Ship, Mediterranean. 22 Mar 1861 Paid off.
In 1861, James Tubb (27) Seaman RN, was listed as living in Landport View, Portsea, with wife Susan Tubb (26) and daughter, Sarah Tubb (2).
  • From 23 Mar 1861 to 14 Apr 1862 back at HMS Excellent.
  • From 15 Apr 1862 through to 7 Aug 1866, James was with HMS Boscawen (1844), which from Feb/Mar of 1862 had been hulked as a Boys training ship in Southampton Water. (This explains son William Henry Tubb's baptism taking place in Southampton, in 1865.)
  • A third stint at HMS Excellent from 8 Aug 1866 to 5 Oct 1867.

Taken at Williamstown, Victoria,
between 1870 and 1879.
Port broadside view of the wooden
steam battleship HMVS Nelson.
Then from 6 Oct 1867 to 14 Feb 1868, James was with HMS Nelson (1814). Given his history, I'd first thought they'd mean the shore establishment of the same name, but it was, in fact, an actual ship. Nelson was given to the colony of Victoria, and sailed for Australia in October 1867, thus James was on that handover voyage. Clearly, this also gave him the opportunity to see that part of Australia that the family would later make their home.

Back in Portsmouth between 15 Feb 1868 and 1 Mar 1869, James was, once more, assigned to HMS Victory shore establishment. 

James' final assignment, from 2 Mar 1869 until his retirement from the Royal Navy on 31 Dec 1870, was with HMS Duke of Wellington (1852), at which time she replaced HMS Victory as flagship of the Port Admiral at Portsmouth (with Victory becoming her tender), her duties consisting of firing salutes to passing dignitaries, such as Queen Victoria on her way to Osborne House. As a Gunner's Mate since 6 Sep 1860, James may even have helped fire those salutes.

In 1871, Susan Tubb (37) Seaman's wife, was living at 11 Besant Terrace, Portsea with Sarah (12), James (9), William (7), Ernest (5) and 'Millie' (Nelly) (3).

''Queen of Nations'' by Richard Ball Spencer

On 19 Mar 1873, Susan Tubb (38), Sarah E (14), James A (10), Wm Hy (9), George E (6) and Nelly (4), departed from Plymouth, Devon, England, on the clipper, Queen of Nations. They arrived in Melbourne after a journey of around 140 days. (I've [so far] not seen a record of how James Henry got back to Australia, but I wouldn't mind betting he worked his passage.)

Susan Tubb (née Bussey) died on 20 Aug 1912 and is buried in Williamstown CemeteryWilliamstown, Victoria, Australia. She will have been 80.

James Henry Tubb died on 8 Nov 1922, and is also buried in Williamstown CemeteryWilliamstown, Victoria, Australia. He will have been 88.

The Family Grave of J H Tubb at Williamstown Cemetery, Victoria, Australia Photo: Suzy & Rob

Wednesday 8 November 2023

William Tubb and Jane Bound

The first 12th Century St. Mary's ChurchKingston, Portsea

William Tubb, purportedly born in 1752 - I haven't seen the record which confirms this - married Jane Bound (bap. 7 Mar 1749), daughter of John Bound, at the 12th Century St Mary's Church, Portsea on 8 Nov 1773.

Records point to William and Jane having six children:
  1. Jane Atkins Tubb bap. 15 Jan 1775 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
  2. William Tubb bap. 17 Nov 1776 (possibly buried 29 Jan 1778)
  3. Mary Tubb bap. 3 Jan 1779 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
  4. John Tubb bap. 27 May 1781 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
  5. Sarah Tubb bap. 27 May 1781 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
  6. William Tubb bap. 12 Aug 1787 at St. Mary's Church, Portsea
Perhaps either William or Jane's mother's maiden name was Atkins. 

Although John and Sarah were both baptised together in 1781, I don't think there is any reason to assume that they were twins. Though, I think we can, sadly, assume that the William born in 1776 died as an infant, because the name was re-used for the last child. Having only seen the transcripts of these records, it may be possible that the originals give further clues.

Jane Tubb (née Bound) of Sun Street, Portsea, died, aged 77, and was buried on 9 Sep 1827 in 'the Parish Of Portsea, County Of Southampton' (the county of Hampshire is named after Southampton, clearly this was then still used). 

There is no record that relates to the death of William Tubb (b. 1752).

Friday 27 October 2023

James Tubb and Sarah Pearce

St. Mary's Church - Alverstoke
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Colin Babb - geograph.org.uk/p/1093207

James Tubb (bap. 1809), son of William Tubb and Sarah Chard and younger brother of this William Tubb, married Sarah Pearce, daughter of Thomas Pearce and Sarah Hall, at Alverstoke, on 27 Oct 1830.

James and Sarah had nine children, the first two of whom were baptised in the 12th Century, early version of St Mary's Church, Portsea.
  1. Sarah Pierce (sic) Tubb b. 26 Feb 1830, bap. 18 Jan 1835
  2. James Thomas Tubb b. 6 Nov 1833, bap. 18 Jan 1835
  3. Emma Tubb b. 1838 M Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 143
  4. William Tubb b. 1840 D Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 109
  5. Alfred Tubb b. 1843 J Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 122 (Died 1844 M Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 102)
  6. Caroline Tubb b. 1844 D Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 122
  7. Henry Edward Tubb b. 1847 J Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 126
  8. Mary Ann Tubb b. 1849 D Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 07 Page 173
  9. Elizabeth Tubb b. 1853 J Quarter in PORTSEA Volume 02B Page 401
Once again, as civil registration was introduced, baptisms were abandoned.

In 1851, we find this family living in Upper Church Road, Portsea with James Tubb (42) Shipwright at Dock Yard; wife Sarah Tubb (40), daughter Sarah Tubb (20), James Tubb (17), Shipwright's Apprentice; Emma Tubb (13), William Tubb (10), Caroline Tubb (6), Henry Tubb (4), Mary Tubb (1) and Sarah's father, Thomas Pearce (74), Widower, Retired Grocer.

In 1871, James Tubb (61) Superannuated Shipwright, Sarah Tubb (60), Mary A Tubb (21) and Elizabeth Tubb (17), were at Church Path, North, Portsea.

Shortly before his 65th birthday, James Tubb, DOB 30 Apr 1809, from Portsea, Hampshire, 5ft 7in tall, with grey hair, blue eyes and a fair complexion, enlisted in the Royal Navy as a Shipwright. From 1 Jan 1874 until 13 Feb 1875, he was assigned to HMS Asia, flagship of the Admiral-Superintendent of Portsmouth Dockyard. From 31 Mar 1875 to 31 Mar 1876 and from 1 Apr 1876 to 9 Jun 1877, he was assigned to HMS St Vincent, which had been commissioned as a training ship in 1862, and specifically as a training ship for boys, moored permanently at Haslar from 1870. James Tubb may have been maintaining or converting the vessel. If I were to speculate, my feeling is that this already long-standing dockyard employee was taken into Royal Navy service at such a 'ripe age' to provide him with a pension.

In 1881, James Tubb (73), Shipwright Pensioner and Sarah Tubb (70), were living at 2, Charles Street, Portsea, with William Jeffery (7), listed as their nephew. He was their grandson, William James Jeffery, born 1874, son of their youngest daughter, Elizabeth, who married William Jeffery in 1872.

In 1891, James Tubb (81), Retired Shipwright and Sarah Tubb (80) were living in Church Path North, Portsea, with the house to themselves.

After more than 65 years of marriage, James and Sarah Tubb died in 1896, within a week of each other. James Tubb (87) Pensioner of Church Path, Landport, was buried from St Mary's, at Kingston Cemetery, on 22 Jul 1896 and Sarah Tubb (86) Widow of Church Path, Landport was likewise buried at Kingston Cemetery, from St Mary's, seven days later, on 29 Jul 1896.

Thursday 27 July 2023

William Tubb and Sarah Ruff

St Mary's Church, Alverstoke
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Barry Shimmon - geograph.org.uk/p/2255172

William Tubb (b. 1808), son of William Tubb and Sarah Chard, married Sarah Ruff, daughter of William Ruff and Martha Preston, in Alverstoke, Gosport on 27 Jul 1827. William and Sarah had ten children:
  1. William Tubb bap. 30 Mar 1828 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
  2. Sarah Maria Tubb bap. 11 Jul 1830 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
  3. Elizabeth Jane Tubb bap. 30 Sep 1832 at St Mary's Church, Portsea (Jane Tubb (3) was buried at St Mary's, on 22 Mar 1835.)
  4. James Henry Tubb b. 1 Apr 1834, bap. 6 Jul 1834 at St Mary's, Portsea
  5. Jane Tubb bap. 21 Aug 1836 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
  6. Amelia Tubb b. 1838 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 07 Page 120, bap. 3 Feb 1839 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
  7. Martha Louisa Tubb b. 1841 M Quarter Volume 07 Page 137
  8. Mary Ann Tubb b. 1843 M Quarter Volume 07 Page 136
  9. Alfred Tubb b. 1844 D Quarter Volume 07 Page 129
  10. Lavinia Tubb b. 1851 M Quarter Volume 07 Page 160, died, aged 2, in 1853 S Quarter Volume 02B Page 232, buried 2 Oct 1853, in Portsea.
They seem to have given up on baptisms after Amelia. This is not unusual and is something I've seen elsewhere, once civil registration was introduced.

In 1841, William Tubb (35), Sarah Tubb (30), William Tubb (13), Sarah Tubb (11), James Tubb (7), Jane Tubb (5), Amelia Tubb (3) and Louisa Tubb (0) were listed in 'Marie Lee Borne Street' (Marylebone Street). 

In 1851, still in Marylebone Street were William Tubb (42) Master Brush Maker, Sarah Tubb (42); married daughter, Sarah Donset (21); James Tubb (16), Sailor; Jane Tubb (14), Louisa Tubb (9), Mary Ann Tubb (7), Alfred Tubb (6) and Louisa (sic) - must be Lavinia (0). Amelia Tubb (12) was staying with her aunt and uncle James and Jane Frankham in Waterloo Street, Portsea.

Son William Tubb, born 1828, died, aged 26, in Alverstoke, Hampshire and was buried, on 19 Feb 1854 at St Mary's Church, Portsea.

Once more at Marylebone Street, in 1861, we find just William Tubbs (sic) (52), Brush Maker with wife Sarah Tubbs (sic) (52).

In 1871, in Marylebone Street, Landport, were William Tubb (62), Brush Maker, Sarah Tubb (62), daughter Louisa Nichlas (29) Widowed and granddaughter, Lydia Nichlas (5). 

William Tubb, Brush Maker of Marylebone Street, Landport, Portsea, died in 1878, listed as 70 and was buried on 27 Aug 1878, at Kingston Cemetery

Sarah Tubb, widow, then of St Vincent Street, Southsea, died the following year and was buried on 31 Dec 1879, also at Kingston Cemetery.

Saturday 13 May 2023

Edward Tubb, Hannah Bussey & Sarah Elizabeth Joy

The second St. Mary's Church, Portsea, built in 1843, incorporated the Tudor
west tower of the old church. ImageSimon WrightSome rights reserved

Edward Tubb (b. 1827), son of William Tubb and Sarah Chard, married Hannah Bussey, daughter of Benjamin Bussey and Elizabeth Bowen at St Mary's Church, Portsea on 13 May 1850. (In the previous, second church, built 1843, not the current building, built in the 1880s.)

Edward and Hannah had three children:
  1. Elizabeth Tubb b. 1850 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 07 Page 173, bap. 29 Dec 1850 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
  2. Susan Alice Tubb b. 23 Jul 1852 Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION Volume 02B Page 334, bap. 7 Oct 1855 at St Mary's Church, Portsea
  3. Edward Tubb b. 1860 D Quarter in SHEPPEY Volume 02A Page 575, died, aged 2 in 1863 M Quarter in SHEPPEY Volume 02A Page 461, buried on 28 Mar 1863 at Sheppey Cemetery.
In 1851, the couple had not yet set up home. That year, Edward Tubb (23) Shipwright, was a visitor in the household of Jane Watsworth (40), Seaman's Wife in Nelson Street, Portsea (she may well have been a relative). While Hannah Tubb (21) and their daughter, Elizabeth Tubb (0) were in the household of Hannah's widowed mother, Elizabeth Bussey (56).

They must have moved to the Isle of Sheppey, Kent between 1855 and 1860, because in 1861, the family lived at 4 James Street, Minster in Sheppey, Sheerness with Edward Tubb (33), Shipwright from Portsmouth; Hannah Tubb (32), Elizabeth Tubb (10), Susan Tubb (9) and Edward Tubb (0).

Then Hannah Tubb died, aged only 33, and was buried, on 27 Jun 1862, at Sheppey Cemetery.

In the 3rd quarter of 1864, Edward Tubb remarried, in Thanet, Kent, to Sarah Elizabeth Joy (bap. 8 Mar 1829 at St. John The Baptist, Margate), daughter of Edward Joy and Harriet Mary Garling. 

Edward and Sarah added another three children:
  1. Herbert Joy Tubb b. 8 Oct 1865 D Qtr in SHEPPEY Vol 02A Page 716
  2. Harriet Mary Tubb b. 21 May 1867 J Qtr in SHEPPEY Vol 02A Page 752
  3. Grace Hannah Tubb b. 9 Aug 1871 S Qtr in SHEPPEY Vol 02A Page 754
In 1871, living at 5 Rock Cottages, Minster, Sheppey, were Edward Tubb (43) Shipwright, Sarah E Tubb (42), H J Tubb (Herbert Joy) (5), HM Tubb (Harriet Mary) (3) and Harriet Curtis (13) Boarder. I've been unable to find either Elizabeth or Susan, who at 20 & 19, were presumably out working.

In 1881, they were living at Cheyney Rock Cottages, Minster in Sheppey. Edward Tubb (58); Sarah (51), Herbert (15), Harriet (13) and Grace (9). 

Edward Tubb died 26 Jan 1884, in Sheppey. He will have been 56. He is buried at Sheppey Cemetery, a.k.a. Halfway Cemetery, Sheerness.

In 1891, Sarah E Tubb (61), widow, was a lodger in the household of John Parrett (31) Upholsterer in Trinity Road, Minster in Sheppey. Visiting were daughter, Harriet Mary Penfold (26), Harriet M Penfold (6) and George E Penfold (2). Herbert J Tubb (25) Merchant's Clerk, was in Cornwall. Grace Tubb (19) was a General Servant Domestic in the household of George Harper (49), Upholsterer & Auctioneer in Castle Street, Ashford, Kent.

Sarah Tubb, with her age estimated to 64, died in 1895 J Quarter in WEST ASHFORD (Volume 02A  Page 432). There is a record of a burial of a Sarah Tubbs (sic) in Ashford, on 10 May 1895, which very likely relates.

Sunday 23 April 2023

Fleet Review, Spithead 23 Apr 1856

Review of the Fleet at Spithead by the Queen, April 23, 1856

On Wednesday, 23 April 1856 (St. George's Day) a "Great Naval Review", by Queen Victoria, of the fleet being prepared for the 1856 Baltic campaign was held at Spithead to celebrate the end of the war - The Russian (Crimean War) War of 1854 - 1856. To discover that one of my relatives had served in that war and took part in the Fleet Review of 1856 was something: to find that there were two of them there, one each from my father's side of the family and the other from my mother's side was a major surprise.

My 2x great-grandfather on my father's side, Thomas Jones, was at the Spithead Review, serving as a Petty Officer on HMS Duke of Wellington.

James Henry Tubb, meanwhile, who was the nephew of Edward Tubb whose daughter married into a branch of my mother's family, had also served during that war, both in the Black Sea, as well as in the Baltic, and was also present at the Fleet Review aboard HMS Nile (1839).

HMS Duke of Wellington was at the head of the Port line, while, this report on the Review in the The Illustrated London News, 26 April 1856 adds, "Abreast of the Port line the Royal George led the Starboard, gigantic in proportions as the Duke, if not as elegant in form. Then came the Nile.

So both sides of my family were represented, on both sides of the line, almost side-by-side. (It was even more of a surprise when I found a third.)

Wednesday 6 April 2022

Frederick William Penfold and Harriet Mary Tubb

Royal Naval Dockyard, Bermuda SeanMD80 (talk) (Uploads), CC BY-SA 3.0

Frederick William Penfold (b. 20 Jul 1863 in Hartfield, Sussex), son of William Penfold and Mary Ann Charlotte Gunn (m. 1851), married Harriet Mary Tubb (b. 21 May 1867 in Sheppey), daughter of Edward Tubb and Sarah Elizabeth Joy at the Wesleyan Chapel, Tottenham on 12 May 1888.

Frederick and Harriet had five children:

  1. Harriet Mary Penfold Tubb b. 1884 Q4 in CHELSEA Vol 01A Page 338
  2. George Edward Penfold b. 7 Mar 1889 in SHEPPEY Vol 02A Page 892
  3. Grace Joy Penfold b. 27 Aug 1892 in DOVER Volume 02A Page 982
  4. Frederick William Penfold b. 8 Oct 1896 in FULHAM Vol 01A Page 305
  5. Bert Penfold b. 14 Aug 1898 in ISLE OF WIGHT Vol 02B Page 599
Looking at this succession of birth locations: i. Frederick's mother, Mary Ann Penfold (55) died in in Chelsea, in 1886, so it may well have been to her that Harriet had gone; ii. Sheppey makes sense that Harriet was able to return to her own mother for the birth of her first legitimate child; iii. this is the year after Frederick left the navy, so unsure why Dover (Harriet's mother's family, perhaps); iv. Fulham is where Frederick's younger brother Charles lived and makes sense to go to his family for this birth, her own mother having died in 1895 and v. the Isle of Wight is where they'd moved in 1898.

Frederick William Penfold, had enlisted in the Royal Navy in 1878, at 15, as a Boy 2nd Class. His father had died in 1873, which may well have been motivation for going to sea. At that time he was 5ft tall, had dark brown hair, brown eyes and fair skin. He'd previously worked as a Gardener. Later, he grew to the lofty height of 5ft 5in and his complexion became ruddy. On 20 Jul 1881, his 18th birthday, Frederick signed up for a further 10 years.

Frederick William Penfold's Naval Career:

In 1881, Frederick William Penfold (18), Signal boy from Hartfield, Sussex, was listed under Royal Navy At Sea, Ships and Overseas Establishments with HMS Northampton, in Camber, Bermuda (Royal Naval Dockyard, Bermuda)

  • 16 Dec 1882 - 2 Apr 1884 - HMS Duncan (1859) which had been flag ship at Sheerness since 1879. (Exactly the right time and place for Frederick to meet Harriet, who was born and lived in Sheerness. Harriet's father, Edward Tubb, died in Jan 1884. We might conclude that Harriet, 16, sought solace in Frederick.)
  • 3 Apr 1884 - 30 Jun 1886HMS Carysfort (1878), which in 1884 and 1885, landed men for the naval brigade at Sudan (during the Mahdist War, which claimed the life of Gordon of Khartoum). During this time, there is a note on Frederick's service record saying "Mily Gaol Alexandria 42 days" (Gabbari military prison, Alexandria, Egypt). Doesn't give the exact dates or what for, but 42 days is unlikely to be too serious. Drunk maybe? Apr 1886 Mediterranean. 8 May 1886 Serving in Greek Waters. 19 Jun 1886 Malta.

Crossing Malta's Grand Harbour by Water Taxi


In 1891, Frederick W Penfold (27), Qualified signalman, married, is a 'Member of crew' of HMS Excellent in Portsmouth Harbour. Harriet Mary Penfold (26), Harriet M Penfold (6) and George E Penfold (2) were visiting Harriet's mother, Sarah E Tubb (61) in Trinity Road, Minster in Sheppey.

In 1898, George Edward Penfold, son of Frederick William Penfold, Commercial Agent, of 22 West Street, Newport, was enrolled at the Newport Board School in Newport, Isle of Wight. His previous school was Board School Southsea. But the next record we find, is on 22 Sep 1899, when George Penfold, aged 9, from Barnardo Homes, sails to Toronto, Canada on the vessel Arawa. We also read that, "According to the Barnardo records [Grace Joy] was admitted to the Barnardo's Homes in England on July 22, 1899 at the age of 7 with her brother George." [Source]

In 1901, Harriet M Penfold (32) listed as married, was at 49, Trafalgar Road, Newport, Isle of Wight, with Frederick W Penfold (4). George E Penfold (12) was listed as a Domestic in the household of a David White from Scotland, in Assiniboia East, Northwest Territories, Canada.

Frederick William Penfold, house painter (journeyman) of 2 Seagrave Rd, Fulham, died, aged 37, on 7 Apr 1901, of a cerebral hemorrhage (stroke) in Fulham Infirmary. His elder brother, John Robert Penfold of 52, Hogarth Buildings, Westminster is listed as the informant and was in attendance.

We read here that, "According to family hearsay Fredrick left the family at some stage prior to his death and Harriett could not keep the family together and it seems that her son George was put into a Barnardo’s Home and sent to Canada in 1899 at the age of 10." Sadly, the records do bear this out.

On 31 July 1904, G J Penfold (11) Female (Grace Joy) from Barnardo Homes sailed to Toronto, Canada on the vessel RMS Southwark.

Then on 3 May 1907, the youngest, Bert Penfold (8) from Barnardo Homes sailed to Toronto, Canada on the vessel SS Dominion.

So it wasn't just George who was sent to Barnardo Homes, but George, Grace and Bert, who became Home Children sent to Canada: "​From the late 1860s right up to 1948, over 100,000 children of all ages were emigrated right across Canada, from the United Kingdom, to be used as indentured farm workers and domestics. Believed by Canadians to be orphans, only approximately 12 percent truly were". "For the most part, these children were not picked up from the streets but came from intact families, who, through sickness or even death of one of their parents, had fallen on hard times."

In Oct 1910, Harriet Mary Penfold (40) Domestic and Frederick William Penfold (13) at School, make their way to Quebec, Canada (and apparently on to Bracebridge, Ontario) on the vessel Lake Manitoba, travelling steerage from Liverpool. Next to Harriet's name is the stamp, British Bonus Allowed, which was a commission paid by the Canadian government's Immigration Branch to steamship booking agents (not to the immigrants themselves).

In 1911, Fred Penfold (listed as born 1897 and immigration year 1910) was in Guelph, Wellington South, Ontario, Canada in a household with two English ladies: Letia Camocott (b. 1865) and Alice Merridon (b. 1873) Lodger. It doesn't say in what capacity, but as he would then be 15, presumably Fred was either working for them or elsewhere and boarding there. Meanwhile Bert Penfold (12) that year was a Boarder in the household of Canadian couple, George Gilbert (b. 1873) and his wife, Etta, in Muskoka, Ontario, Canada.

All three boys: George Edward, Frederick William Jr and Bert, it seems served in the Canadian Expeditionary Force, during World War I.

Grace Penfold (23) married Benjamin Folie (24), son of George Folie, on 10 Aug 1914 in Toronto, Canada. On the marriage record however, in the space where her parents names should be, it has 'unknown' written across the space, so I think we have to assume that her mother had not reencountered her.

In 1916, H M Penfold (48) Female (Harriet Mary) - immigration year 1910 - was in the household of Englishman, Charles M C Westaway (32) in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada, seemingly employed as Housekeeper.

Harriet Mary Penfold (née Tubb) died, aged 67, on 27 Aug 1934 in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada and is buried at Woodlawn Cemetery, Saskatoon.


Their name liveth forever