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Monday, 30 June 2025

The Origins of Augustus George Stanley

St.Andrew's nave, Monday, 3 August, 2015
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Augustus George Stanley'sgreat-granddaughter, Winifred Constance Stanley Trevail, actress, dancer and trapeze artist ... (and my grandmother's 2nd cousin), "claimed descent from the Earls of Derby". As the family name of the Earls of Derby, is Stanley, this was the obvious place to look, so the initial purpose of this research was to attempt to find out if there's any truth in that claim. While I haven't [yet] discovered a link, it's clear they came from the right sort of background, so it certainly can't be discounted. However, there have been so many other 'interesting' twists and turns to this story. You may, at this point, want to grab a beverage, but I think it's well worth the read ...

George Stanley (b. 24 Aug 1813, bap. 6 Oct 1814 at All Saints, West Ham), son of William Stanley Esquire and Lucy Chatfield, married Louisa Morgan (b. ~1809 in Russia), daughter of Stephen Morgan and Elizabeth Bannister, at St Andrew’s Church, Holborn (The largest Anglican parish church designed by Christopher Wren) on 30 Jun 1832. The record states "George Stanley Esquire of the Parish of West Ham in the County of Essex Bachelor and a Minor and Louisa Morgan of this parish Spinster were married by Licence and with the consent of Lucy Stanley Widow the natural and lawful mother of the said minor, by Gilbert Beresford Rector." At 19, George needed permission from his mum. Bless. Witnesses were Thomas Beard and James Cole.

Interesting that both George and his late father, William, were styled Esquire, which back then meant, "a title of respect accorded to men of higher social rank, particularly members of the landed gentry above the rank of gentleman and below the rank of knight." It will take much more research yet to find out what gave them that entitlement. William Stanley, who married Lucy Chatfield (bap. 7 Aug 1788 at Deptford St Nicholas), daughter of Francis Chatfield Esquire and Margaret Ambrose, on 10 Apr 1806 at All Saints, West Ham, lived at Maryland Point, Stratford, Essex, then a prosperous rural area; address that was listed on the baptisms of all their eleven children.

Louisa's parents, Stephen Morgan and Elizabeth Bannister married on 30 Apr 1806 at St Giles in the Fields, Holborn, Middlesex. They lived at Harefield Grove, a plain [but very GRAND] early 19th-century house to the north of the village [of Harefield] "In 1830 Stephen Morgan, described as a Russian merchant, purchased the estate, and he greatly improved the house and laid out the grounds." [Source] (You've probably seen Harefield Grove on TV as it was used in filming The Professionals and The New Avengers.) Elizabeth Bannister (bap. 23 Jan 1784 at St Paul's, Covent Garden) was the daughter of actor and theatre manager, John Bannister (1760 –1836) and Elizabeth Harper (1757–1849), who were both notable actors in their era. 

George and Louisa Stanley had four children:

  1. Augustus George Stanley bap. 3 Jul 1833 at St Mary AbbotsKensington
  2. William Henry Stanley bap. 1 Jan 1835 at St Mary Abbots, Kensington
  3. Anne Stanley bap. 4 Feb 1836 at Saint Mary, West Kensington
  4. Horace Stanley b. 2 Jan 1837, bap. 11 Feb 1837 at Saint Mary, West Kensington. Died, aged 13, in 1850 M Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 07 Page 173 (close to Southampton, Hampshire)

All of the baptisms list the family's address then as North End (now West Kensington). On Augustus' and William's baptisms, their father is listed as Esquire; on Anne's and Horace's as Gentleman (which probably suggests that even then the terms were already being used interchangeably and flexibly.)

Carlton Crescent, Southampton. Saturday, 22 August, 2015
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In 1841, George Stanley (25) Ind (of independent means), Louisa Stanley (25) - the adults' ages very rounded down - were living in Carlton Crescent, Southampton, with their four children: Augustus (8), William (6), Horace (3) and Annie (4). The family had three female servants living in. 

In Election Year 1847, Augustus George Stanley was in the Eton School Lists, as were his brothers, William Henry and Horace. Within the context of the school, "election" refers to the highly competitive examination process held in late April/early May to select King's Scholars. Those who win these scholarships receive free education and board and live in a dedicated house called "College". Usually admitted at the age of 13, Augustus would have been exactly the right age for this, but they may simply have registered all three boys for paid places. Either way, they must have had the social status.

In 1851, Louisa Stanley (35) [age still massaged down] Married, Annuitant, born in Russia, was living on the Romsey Road, MillbrookSouth Stoneham, Hampshire with her daughter, Annie Stanley (15) Scholar at Home, born in Kensington, London. They still had three house servants. There are no clues to the whereabouts of her husband George, who was not in the household. 

Didn't find them anywhere in 1861, but in 1871, George Stanley (45) claiming he was from Southampton, Hampshire - whose occupation is unreadable - and Louisa Stanley (45) born in Russia, were living in Eastbourne Terrace, Paddington, Kensington, London. Both had lost another 10 years, because by 1871, George will have been 58 and Louisa 62 (a gap they're probably trying to hide). They had one General Servant, Adelaide Boneville (28) from France. 

NE side of Gloucester Terrace, London W2, Sunday, 13 May, 2012
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Louisa Stanley died on 25 Apr 1880 (1880 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 32), aged 71. The Morning Advertiser of 28 Apr 1880 carried the following announcement, "STANLEY - On the 25th inst., of acute bronchitis, Louisa, the beloved wife of George Stanley, Esq., of 41 Gloucester Terrace, Hyde Park." On 27 May 1880, Administration of the Personal Estate of Louisa Stanley (Wife of George Stanley, Esquire) late of 41 Gloucester Terrace Hyde Park in the County of Middlesex who died 25 April 1880 at 41 Gloucester Terrace was granted at the Principal Registry to the said George Stanley of 41 Gloucester Terrace. Her estate was valued at under £600.

In 1881, George Stanley, Widower with no occupation listed; his birthplace finally true as East Stratford, but his age listed as 60 - this would equate to a birth year of 1821, which is far too late, but 'consistent' with the previously massaged ages - was still living at 41, Gloucester Terrace, Paddington, Kensington, London with three servants: a Cook, a Housemaid and a Page. 

George Stanley died, aged 72, on Sunday, 7 Mar 1886 (1886 M Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 124). The West London Observer of 20 Mar 1886 reported on A FATAL FALL. "On Friday afternoon week Dr Diplock held an inquest at the "Crown" Hotel, High Street, Kensington, touching the death of George Stanley, aged 72, no occupation, who died on Sunday night at 13 De Vere Gardens, Kensington. It appeared that the deceased had suffered from chronic bronchitis. While going upstairs he fell backwards, causing internal injuries. Dr Stewart, of Redcliffe Gardens, South Kensington, stated that he was called and attended the deceased up to his death. The fall accelerated his death, and a verdict of Accidental death was recorded."

So now to take up the story of the two older sons, who in 1850, had both joined the army: The Bombay Gazette of 10 February 1851, under General Orders issued by the Commander in Chief, Head Quarters Bombay, 8th February, 1851: For the Infantry, To Rank from 9th December 1850, the day on which they passed their public examination, amongst the listings were William Henry Stanley, appointed 27th November and immediately afterwards, Augustus George Stanley, Overland 29th November. 

Retreat Beating at Poona by Robert Mabon
But in Allen's Indian Mail of 16 August 1855, was the report of a COURT-MARTIAL of ENSIGN A. G. STANLEY. (The same report had appeared in The Bombay Gazette of 23 June 1855.) Head Quarters, Poona (now Pune) June 23, 1855. - At an European General Court-Martial, assembled at Poona on Monday, the 18th Day of June, 1855, Ensign Augustus George Stanley, of the 3rd regiment Bombay European infantry, was arraigned on the following charge: Charge -- For highly disgraceful conduct, unbecoming the character of an officer and a gentleman, and to the prejudice of good order and military discipline, in the following instances:- First Instance - In having at Bombay (now Mumbai), on or about the 26th day of January, 1855, obtained a policy of insurance from Messieurs Nicol and Company, the treasurers of the Bombay Laudable Society, on passing his word of honour to the, that he (Ensign Stanley) would pay on the same afternoon, or at farthest before eleven o'clock the next day, the sum of Rs. 166, or thereabouts (being the amount of premium and subscriptions due for the said policy), or return the policy; neither of which acts he, Ensign Stanley, performed; thereby forfeiting his word of honour. Second Instance - In having failed to reply to a letter written to him by the aforesaid Messieurs Nicol and Company on or about the 29th day of January, 1855, wherein they required him, Ensign Stanley, to explain his conduct and make a remittance, or return the policy; he, the said Ensign Stanley, neither making remittance nor returning the policy. Third Instance - In having in a letter, dated on or about the 25th day of February, 1855, being an immediate reply to a letter from the said Messieurs Nicol and Company, dated the 23rd day of February, 1855, promised a remittance in the next pay list, a promise which he, Ensign Stanley, failed to fulfil. The above being in breach of the Articles of War. Finding - The Court, from the evidence before it, finds the prisoner, Ensign A. G. Stanley, of the 3rd Bombay Eur. Infantry, Guilty of the charge in the First Instance. Guilty of the charge in the Second Instance, with the exception of "highly disgraceful", in the charge. Guilty of the charge in the Third Instance. The Court having found the prisoner guilty, as above specified, which being in breach of the Articles of War, sentences him, Ensign A. G. Stanley, of the 3rd Eur infantry, to be dismissed the service. Camp, Poona, 21 June, 1855. Approved and confirmed. (Signed) H. Somerset, Lieut-General, Commander in Chief. Head-quarters, Poona, 23 June, 1855. The name of Ensign A. G. Stanley is to be struck off the strength of the army from the date of publication of this order at Poona, which is to be reported to the Adj. General of the Army. (An Ensign being a junior rank of a commissioned officer seems entirely compatible, in both age and social status, as an Eton boy.)

The 3rd Bombay European Regiment was an infantry regiment raised by the British East India Company in 1853. They were created originally for the defence of Bombay (Mumbai) and were stationed initially in Pune.

Unsurprisingly, the next encounter is in The London Gazette of 8 Jul 1856. East India House, July 2, 1856. The Court of Directors of the East India Company hereby give notice, that they have received a Bombay Gazette, containing notice that the undermentioned Insolvents have filed their Petitions in the Court for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors there, under the provisions of the 11th Victoria, cap 21: Petitions filed praying for Relief. William Henry Stanley, formerly a Lieutenant in the 17th Regiment Bombay Native Infantry (Bombay Army), at present unemployed, European, lately without the Fort, near Cowasjee Patell's Tank, at present in the Bombay Gaol, filed 8th May. Date of Gazette containing notice, May 22, 1856. Augustus George Stanley, formerly a Lieutenant in the 3rd Regiment Bombay European Infantry at present unemployed, European, lately without the Fort, near Cowasjee Patell's Tank, at present in the Bombay Gaol, filed 8th May. Date of Gazette containing notice, May 22, 1856. (Assume in prison for their debts.)

So far I can find no record of a marriage, but of the following children:

  1. Louisa Susan Stanley b. 21 May 1857, bap. 25 Jun 1857 Poona (now Pune), India. The record states she was baptised in the Presbyterian church, presumably Christ Church (est. 1831), the daughter of George and Eliza Stanley and lists her father as being "at present unemployed". (When Louisa Susan Stanley (16) married Francis Stephen Blazey (41) in 1874, her father was listed fully as Augustus George Stanley. Clearly, Louisa was named after her grandmother, Louisa Morgan.)
  2. Morgan Stanley b. 30 Apr 1859, bap. 4 Aug 1860 at the Church of Scotland, Allahabad (now Prayagraj), son of Augustus George and Eliza Jemima Stanley. Augustus George Stanley listed as Deputy Magistrate.
  3. Rosina Gelstow Stanley b. 29 Oct 1860, bap. 27 Dec 1860 in Allahabad (now Prayagraj), daughter of Augustus George and Eliza Jemima Stanley.
  4. Augustus George Stanley b. 1862. Died, aged 3, on 6 Jun 1865 from Convulsions and was buried on 7 Jun 1865 in Cawnpore (now Kanpur, famous for the 1857 Siege of Cawnpore). The burial record lists him as the son of Mr Stanley, Tehsildar (A tehsildar is a tax officer accompanied by revenue inspectors, though I shall forever equate him with Joseph Sedley, the collector of Boggley Wollah in Vanity Fair.)
  5. Mary Augusta Stanley b. 17 Apr 1863, bap. 24 Dec 1863 in Mirzapur, daughter of Augustus George and Eliza Stanley, abode Orai. Again, Augustus George Stanley is listed as Deputy Magistrate.
The third child having been given the middle name Gelstow, following a custom I've seen in many families, this could have been Eliza Jemima's maiden name, however, I've found no records to confirm it. Eliza Jemima Stanley, wife of G. Stanley, Esq., Tehsildar of Orai, died on 3 Sep 1867, aged 29, and was buried, in Orai, on 4 Sep 1867. Under cause of death: "Uncontrollable vomiting from Hepatic congestion brought on by hard drinking."

Quite how does a court-martialled, disgraced, insolvent, former army officer end up employed as a tax collector and deputy magistrate? Contacts, I guess. Bloody cheek comes to mind. An Eton education will have 'helped'!

An announcement appeared in the Englishman's Overland Mail of 8 February 1868, under the Marriages: STANLEY-JOHNSTON -- at Christ Church Bankipore, Patna, on Thursday, the 23rd instant (23 Jan 1868), under Special Licence, by the Revd. A. A. Norrish, Chaplain, Augustus George Stanley, Esq., Sub-Collector and Deputy Magistrate of Jellowa District, Jhansee (Jhansi) Division, Bundlekund, to Miss Annie Maria Johnston, second eldest daughter of D.J.C. Johnston, Esq., of Chujjoo Bagh [...], Bankipore, Patna. There are no records of any children of this marriage and Annie Maria Stanley died, aged 34 years and 6 days, on 16 Apr 1874 from Disease of the Heart and was buried on 17 Apr 1874, in Bankipore, Patna, India. Conspicuously absent, there is no mention of who she was, nor of her husband on her burial record. As Louisa Susan Stanley married on 9 Apr 1874, it looks like her father had disappeared, her step-mother had been looking after her and the marriage was arranged for her future care, knowing that Annie Maria was terminally ill.

When William Henry Stanley, School Master, had married Lavinia Macklin, daughter of Terrence Macklin and Hannah Newman, in Bombay on 16 Jan 1858, he listed his father as George Stanley. William Henry Stanley, about 38 [he will have been 42], 'Formerly Lieutenant Madras Army' [Bombay Army], died on 4 Oct 1877 from Carbuncle & Boils and the burial record says he was buried, on 5 Oct 1877, in the Anarkullie (I assume they meant Anarkali) Lahore (then in India, now in Pakistan) Church of England Cemetery. 

Both the Herts and Bucks Advertisers of 17 Nov 1877, under DEATHS, reported, "October 4, at Lahore, much regretted, William Henry Stanley, Esq., second son of George Stanley, Esq., grandson of late Stephen Morgan, Esq., of Harefield Grove, near Rickmansworth", confirming their pedigree.

(William Henry and Lavinia Stanley, had two children: Emily Agnes Malcolm Stanley b. 11 Jun 1859, bap. 1 Sep 1859 in Bombay, India and Charles William Vaughan Stanley, bap. 4 Sep 1864 at Saint Luke, Finsbury, London. On that latter baptism, William Henry Stanley's occupation is listed as Railway Contractor - so this suggests how his niece, Louisa Susan Stanley, may have met Francis Robert Blazey, a train driver on the Indian railway - who was the same age as her father - and my 2nd great-granduncle.)

On 30 Jan 1879, Administration of the Personal Estate (under £3000) of William Henry Stanley late of Lahore in the East Indies Bachelor who died 4 October 1877 at Lahore was granted at the Principal Registry to George Stanley of 41 Gloucester Terrace Hyde Park in the County of Middlesex Esquire the Father and Next of Kin. This administration was Revoked by Registrar's Order 19 December 1881. Another Administration granted at the Principal Registry January 1882. And on the same date, 30 Jan 1879, Administration of the Personal Estate (under £3000) of Augustus George Stanley late of the City of Bombay in the East Indies Batchelor who died 14 April 1878 at the Presidency of Bombay was granted at the Principle Registry to George Stanley of 41 Gloucester Terrace Hyde Park in the County of Middlesex Esquire the Father and Next of Kin. This was Revoked by Registrar's Order 20 Jul 1882. (Obviously, neither was a bachelor.)

However, unlike with William Henry Stanley, there's no record of the death or burial of Augustus George Stanley, which is odd. It also seems strange that, after going to all the bother of announcing the second son's death and including pedigree, that the same wasn't done for the first-born. Difficult to know this far on whether George knew his sons had married or not and whether he was trying it on. Either way, George was never entitled.

And in a further 'interesting coincidence', I'll mention Augustus George Stanley's 1st cousin - son of George Stanley's youngest sister Jane Stanley - General Sir Malcolm Henry Stanley Grover b. 19 Jul 1858. According to The Peerage, this chap died on 23 April 1912 at age 53 at Simla, India (he certainly served and married in India), which information, apparently, came from the Grover family. Except he didn't. You can see a photo of the jolly old General, resplendent with all his braid and medals, looking older than 53, on the page listing his actual death and burial, at the ripe old age of 87, on 17 Nov 1945, where he can be found resting in Putney Vale Cemetery (also known as Wandsworth Cemetery and Crematorium.) Is it also coincidental that Augustus George Stanley washes up in Wandsworth borough?

Yet on 4 Feb 1879 in The London Gazette appeared two notices:

WILLIAM HENRY STANLEY, Esq., Deceased. Pursuant to the Statute 22  and 23 Victoria, chapter 35. Notice is hereby given, that the creditors of William Henry Stanley, late of the Bombay Army, Esq., deceased (who died on the 14th day of October, 1877), are, on or before the 1st day of May next, to send particulars of their debts or claims to the undersigned, the Solicitors to George Stanley, of 41, Gloucester Terrace, Hyde Park, in the county of Middlesex, Esq; and that the said George Stanley, as administrator, will after the said 1st of May next, proceed to distribute the estates of the said deceased among the parties entitled thereto, having regard only to the claims of which he then shall have had notice.- Dated this 1st day of February, 1879. E and F BANNISTER and FACHE, 13, John Street, Bedford Row, Solicitors for the said Administrator.

AUGUSTUS GEORGE STANLEY, Esq., Deceased. Pursuant to the Statute 22 and 23 Victoria, chapter 35. Notice is hereby given, that the creditors of Augustus George Stanley, late of the Bombay Army, Esq., deceased (who died on the 12th day of April, 1878), are, on or before the 1st day of May next, to send particulars of their debts or claims to the undersigned, the Solicitors to George Stanley, of 41, Gloucester Terrace, Hyde Park, in the county of Middlesex, Esq; and that the said George Stanley, as administrator, will after the said 1st of May next, proceed to distribute the estates of the said deceased among the parties entitled thereto, having regard only to the claims of which he then shall have had notice.- Dated this 1st day of February, 1879. E and F BANNISTER and FACHE, 13, John Street, Bedford Row, Solicitors for the said Administrator.

Later, the following two new Administrations were granted: 

On 27 Jan 1882, Administration of the Personal Estate of William Henry Stanley (value £4,832 9s 6d) late of Lahore in the East Indies who died 4 October 1877 at Lahore was granted at the Principal Registry to Lavinia Stanley of Queen's Road in the City of Bristol Widow the Relict. The Administration granted at the Principal Registry January 1879 having been revoked. (In 1881, Lavinia Stanley (41) Widow had been Superintendent of the "Asylum For the Blind" Queens Road, Bristol, Gloucestershire.)

On 10 Nov 1882, Administration of the Personal Estate of Augustus George Stanley (value £4,962 15s) late of the City of Bombay in the East Indies Widower who died 28 April 1878 at Aligarh in the North-West Provinces of British India was granted at the Principal Registry under the usual Limitations to Charles Sanderson of 46 Queen Victoria Street in the City of London Gentleman the lawful Attorney of Louisa Susan Blazey (Wife of Francis Robert Blazey) the Daughter and only Next of Kin now residing in the East Indies. The Administration granted at the Principal Registry January 1879 having been revoked. 

The Daily Telegraph on 16 Mar 1883 published the following notice: AUGUSTUS GEORGE STANLEY, Deceased - Pursuant to Act of Parliament of the 22nd and 23rd Vic., cap 35, instituted "An Act to further amend the law of property and to relieve trustees," Notice is Hereby Given, that all creditors and other persons having any debts, claims, or demands against the ESTATE of AUGUSTUS GEORGE STANLEY, late of the city of Bombay, in the East Indies, formerly Deputy Magistrate of Talomi and Orai (who died on the 28th day of April, 1878, intestate, and letters of administration were granted by her Majesty's High Court of Justice, at the Principal Registry attached to the Probate Division thereof on the 10th Day of November, 1882, to Charles Sanderson, the lawful attorney of Louisa Susan Blazey, wife of Francis Robert Blazey, who now resides in the East Indies, the natural and lawful daughter and only next-of-kin of the said deceased), are hereby required to send in the particulars of their debts, claims, and demands to the said administrator, at the office of her solicitor, Mr Frederick Catesby Holland, No 46, Queen Victoria Street, in the City of London, on or before the 1th day of April next, after the expiration of which time the said administrator will proceed to distribute the assets of the said deceased among the parties entitled thereto, having regard only to the claims and demands of which the administrator shall then have had notice, and that the said administrator will not be liable for the assets, or any part thereof, so distributed to any person of whose debt, claim, or demand he shall not have had such notice as aforesaid. Dated this 14th day of March, 1883. F CATESBY HOLLAND, Solicitor to the said Administrator.

Then on 14 Sep 1883, in India, Administration of the Estate of Augustus George Stanley, Deputy Magistrate, was granted to the Admin General of Bengal 'for the time being', listing Sanderson & Co Attorneys. 

So, we now have this uncertainty; three different potential dates of Augustus George Stanley's alleged demise in India of 12th, 14th or 28th of April 1878, but other than the notices to do with the Administration/Probate, there are still no death or burial records confirming his death in 1878. Where did the death information originate, I wonder? Is it possible that he had disappeared and someone attributed an unidentified death, whether in good, or bad faith, to clear up his affairs and get access to his estate? Notwithstanding, this should have been where Augustus George Stanley's story concludes.

Except ... Augustus George Stanley had married Caroline Frost on 28 Sep 1868 (1868 Quarter 3 in Amersham Volume 3A Page 549) in Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire. The transcript of the marriage record says that Augustus George Stanley, claiming to be 28, Shoemaker, giving his father's name as Robert Stanley, Whitesmith, married Caroline Frost (22), Spinster. Caroline's father wasn't listed. Witnesses were William Bailey and Lucy Worley. 

Born Caroline Yelding in 1846 M Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 06 Page 331, her mother, Charlotte Yelding, had married Charles Frost on 18 Jan 1846. Charles Frost apparently died on 24 Apr 1849 at The Fever Hospital, St Giles in the Fields and St George, London, England. In 1851, Caroline Frost (5) Granddaughter, her widowed mother and brother, were living in the household of Thomas Yelding (54) 'Traveller with an exhibition' from Hull, Yorkshire in Windsor Street, Beconsfield. Clearly, Caroline grew up using the Frost surname, but Charles Frost may have been a step-father.

What makes me feel this is the same Augustus George Stanley? Much of this is circumstantial / speculation, but my reasoning includes: He's claiming an age not far off the one we know, who'd have been 35 in 1868; This marriage is eight months after the one to Annie Maria Johnston, who he seems to have deserted, ample time to travel back from India; Beaconsfield is just nine miles from Harefield where his grandparents had lived; A traveller family could be a perfect place to hide if you're absconding and committing bigamy; And there are not only no other records of the birth of any other Augustus George Stanley in that timeframe, he also does not 'exist' anywhere previously on census records: nobody called Augustus George nor George Stanley existed in that area before this marriage; nobody called Augustus George nor George Stanley was born in Wisbeach, Cambridgeshire, which he later claims; Nobody called Robert Stanley, who he alleges is his father, was ever recorded as a Whitesmith, nor existed in Wisbeach; Nobody called Robert Stanley ever registered or baptised a son called Augustus George nor George Stanley. The only thing here that doesn't entirely sit right, is an Eton posh boy claiming to be a Shoemaker, which you'd imagine would be hard to fake. But basically, either he was parachuted into Beaconsfield from outer space, or to quote Arthur Conan Doyle, “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

'This' Augustus George Stanley had six children with Caroline Yelding/Frost:

  1. Ann Stanley b. 1869 D Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 438, mother's maiden name FROST, bap. 2 Jan 1870 in Beaconsfield
  2. Lizzie Stanley b. 1871 M Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 458, mother's maiden name FROST, bap. 7 May 1871 in Beaconsfield (as Elizabeth Stanley, daughter of Augustus George and Caroline Stanley)
  3. Charles Britain Stanley b. 1873 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 561, mother's maiden name YELDING, bap. 18 Apr 1875 at Holy Trinity Church, Clapham (as Charley Stanley, son of George (Shoemaker) and Caroline Stanley, of Clapham, the Polygon
  4. Thomas Henry Stanley b. 1875 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 581, mother's maiden name YELDING, bap. 18 Apr 1875 at Holy Trinity Church, Clapham (son of George (Shoemaker) and Caroline Stanley, of Clapham, the Polygon). Died in 1875 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 356
  5. Emma Maria Stanley b. 1878 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 593, mother's maiden name FROST. Emma Stanley, died, aged 1, in 1880 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 351
  6. Lucy Stanley b. 4 Nov 1881 (1881 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 565), mother's maiden name FROST, bap. 6 Nov 1881 at Holy Trinity Church, Clapham, daughter of George and Caroline Stanley. Father's occupation Photographer, address Acre Square.
In 1871, George Stanley (30) Boot maker, from Wisbeach, Cambridgeshire, was in Windsor Street, Beaconsfield, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, with Caroline Stanley (25), Ann Stanley (1) and Lizzie Stanley (0).

In 1881, George Stanly (sic) (54) Letter Carrier, once more claiming to be from Wisbeach, Cambridgeshire; Caroline Stanly (sic) (52) - clearly both are seriously over-stating their ages (only dare assume in error) - Annie Stanly (sic) (11), Elizabeth Stanly (sic) (10) and Charles Stanly (sic) (8) were living at 1, Little Acre Court, Clapham, Wandsworth, London. 

Augustus George Stanley, Commercial Agent, died, age listed as 39 (he'll have been 49), on 19 Apr 1882 (1882 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 362). The death certificate specifies that he died at The Cottage, Acre Square, from Intestinal Obstruction, Carcinoma 8 months, Pelvic Abscess, Perforation of bladder, certified by JJM Dunbar MD. (Whatever else we think of him, that's an awful way to die.) E Hannaford of 30 Clapham Park Road was present at the death. He was buried on 25 Apr 1882 at West Norwood Cemetery, in the London Borough of Lambeth, Grave Reference 30/18969. (Details from Deceased Online FEES APPLY.) There were no further clues in the burial record, but this is clearly 'our' Augustus George Stanley with the address that agrees with that on Lucy's baptism and the 1881 Census.

Shoemaker didn't seem right, but having since been listed as a photographer, a letter carrier and finally as a commercial agent, these all sound much more likely and show that he was hardly a settled character, which certainly fits in with the previous behaviour. Bit of a coincidence that died in 1882 and his daughter Louisa was then granted the Administration of his Estate, but she seemed genuinely to still be under the impression that he'd died in 1878.

(To hopefully eliminate one further complication: a newspaper report in 1886 suggested that a man called Augustus Stanley had escaped from Holloway Gaol and committed suicide. Listed in other reports as Adolphus Augustus Stanley, he had been detained, charged with stealing from St Olave's Union, Rotherhithe (i.e. the Workhouse). In 1879, it was reported in the press that Adolphus G Stanley had been appointed Porter at Rotherhithe by St Olave's Guardians; Another named the appointee as Augustus G. Stanley. The crime reports said he did not live in and, in 1881, Adolphus G Stanley (40) Widower, Lighterman Porter from Camberwell, Surrey, was lodging in the household of George Kettel (30) Plasterer at 6, Suffolk Place, Rotherhithe, St Olave Southwark, London. It's niggling that the name Augustus keeps cropping up in this regard, but this does seem to be a different person entirely.)

Caroline Stanley gave birth to another daughter, Caroline Stanley b. 27 Jan 1884 (1884 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 676), with mother's maiden name FROST. Despite the way she has been registered, as she was born in January 1884, it is impossible for Augustus George Stanley who was buried on 25 Apr 1882 to have been her biological father.

In 1891, Caroline Stanley (44) Widow, Dressmaker, born in Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire, was living at 5, Lithgow Street, Battersea, with Annie Stanley (21) Confectioner's Assistant; [Elizabeth Stanley had married in 1890]; Charles Stanley (19), Lucy Stanley (9), Caroline Stanley (7), Charlotte Pettigrew (sic) (64) [Caroline's mother had remarried to Travelling Showman, Richard Pettigrove in 1852]; and Thomas Lewis (39) Photographer, Boarder, Married, from Bethnal Green along with his son, George Lewis (11).

In the 2nd Quarter of 1895, in Wandsworth, London (Volume 1D Page 1196), Caroline Stanley married her boarder, Thomas Lewis. (Boarder could have been a merely financial transaction, but as the distinction is between a Lodger with their own room and a Boarder having their meals provided, there may be a chance that they were already in a relationship before 1891.)

In 1901 and still living at 5, Lithgow Street, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, were Thomas Lewis (48) General Labourer; Caroline Lewis (55), Charles Stanley (28), Lucy Stanley (19), Carrie Stanley (17) and Alfred Anglan (sic) (25) Builder's Foreman from Deptford. [Alfred Angling married Caroline Stanley Jnr in the 4th Quarter of 1901, in Wandsworth.]

In 1911, living at 81 York Road, Battersea, were Thomas Lewis (58) Decorator house, from Bethnal Green and Caroline Lewis (65) born in Beaconsfield, Bucks, with none of the children. Wrongly, but usefully, they'd completed the section of the return that was supposed to refer to the present marriage, claiming they'd been married for 43 years - it will have been 43 years since Caroline's previous wedding to Augustus George Stanley in 1868 - confirming that she had 7 children born alive, of whom 2 had died.

Caroline Lewis died, aged 66, in 1912 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 442. And Thomas Lewis died, aged 60, in 1912 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 512.

Sunday, 29 June 2025

William Henry Southwood and Rose Anna Land Stone

Church of St Peter, Uplowman
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William Henry Southwood (b. 23 Aug 1875), son of Joseph Southwood and Maria Wood (née Hayes), married Rose Anna Land Stone (b. 2 Aug 1880), daughter of Frederick James Stone and Loveday Jane Land, on 29 Jun 1903 at St Peter’s Church, Uplowman. Witnesses were Frederick James Stone and Loveday Jane Stone, either the bride's parents, or siblings.

William and Rose Anna Southwood had four children:
  1. Rose Anna Southwood b. 31 May 1905 (1905 S Quarter in TIVERTON Volume 05B Page 399), bap. 16 Jul 1905 at St Peter's Church, Tiverton. At the time of this baptism, the family's address was in one of the courts (looks like Duiton's Court) off Barrington Street, Tiverton.
  2. Frederick William Southwood b. 19 Jan 1907 (1907 M Quarter in TIVERTON Volume 05B Page 384), bap. 17 Feb 1907 in Cove
  3. Lily Southwood b. 7 Sep 1908 (1908 D Quarter in TIVERTON Volume 05B Page 355), bap. 11 Oct 1908 at St Peter’s Church, Uplowman
  4. John Southwood b. 8 Sep 1910 (1910 D Quarter in TIVERTON Volume 05B Page 341), bap. 16 Oct 1910 at St Peter’s Church, Uplowman
Mother's maiden name on all the GRO birth registrations is Stone.

In 1911, William Henry Southwood (34) Cattleman on Farm, was living at Chieflowman Cottage, Uplowman, with wife Rose Anna (30), Rose Anna (5), Frederick William (4), Lily (2) and John (0), as well as John Land (45), Horse Man on Farm, (Rose Anna's Uncle) and her sister, Laura Alice (12).

In 1921, William Henry Southwood (45) Farmer was at Bungsland Farm, West Anstey with Rose Anna Southwood (41), Rose Anna Southwood (16), Frederick William Southwood (14), Lily Southwood (12) and John Southwood (10), as well as Rose Anna's Uncle, John Land (56) Royal Marine Pensioner.

In 1939, William Henry Southwood, Farmer; wife Rose Anna and son, John, Farm Carter Assisting Father, were living at Twitchen Farm, South Molton.

Rose Anna Southwood died, aged 68, in 1949 M Quarter in BARNSTAPLE Volume 07A Page 326 and William Henry Southwood died, aged 79, in 1955 M Quarter in BARNSTAPLE Volume 07A Page 363.

  • In 1927 Rose Anna Southwood married William Ernest Watts and in 1939, were at Chambercombe Farm, Ilfracombe. William Ernest Watts died in 1989, aged 87, and Rose Anna Watts in 2000, at 95.
  • Frederick William Southwood married Nora Ames in 1930. At Greenhills, South Molton in 1939. Frederick William Southwood died in 1994, at 87. Nora died in 2006 in her 100th year.
  • Lily Southwood married Percival Henry Clark in 1930 and in 1939, they were living at Steps Cottage, Stuckeridge, Tiverton. Percival died in 1982 and Lily Clark in 1999, aged 91.
  • John Southwood died in 1995, aged 85.

Saturday, 28 June 2025

Robert Hockley and Elizabeth Cramphorne

St Mary, Great Dunmow
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Robert Hockley (bap. 20 Apr 1755 at St Mary, Great Dunmow), son of Robert and Mary Hockley, married Elizabeth Cramphorne (bap. 4 May 1755 at St Mary, Great Dunmow), daughter of George and Anne Cramphorne, on 28 Jun 1775, at St Mary the Virgin, Great Dunmow. One of the witnesses was Mary Hockley, who could have been the bridegroom's mother or sister.

Records exist for four children of this couple:
  1. Robert Hockley bap. 1 Oct 1775
  2. Elizabeth Hockley bap. 8 Sep 1776
  3. Mary Hockley bap. 4 Jan 1778
  4. William Hockley bap. 4 Apr 1779
All were baptised at St Mary the Virgin, Great Dunmow.

Robert Hockley died at 52 and was buried at St Mary, Great Dunmow on 23 Oct 1807. The burial record tells us he was a Seedsman (seed merchant).

Elizabeth Hockley died, age estimated to 75 (she'll have been 73), and was buried at St Mary the Virgin, Great Dunmow on 11 Nov 1828.

Thursday, 26 June 2025

Wilhelm Kritzer and Flora Wilhelmina Gleichauf

The Catholic parish church of St. Johann in Donaueschingen, Germany. The building with a double tower façade in the Bohemian Baroque style was built from 1724 to 1747 to a design by the Prague architect František Maxmilián Kaňka. Photo H. HelmlechnerCC BY-SA 4.0.

Wilhelm Kritzer (b. 10 Jan 1844), son of Michael Kritzer and Maria Agatha Hall, married Flora Wilhelmina Gleichauf (b. 26 Jan 1851), daughter of Johann Nepomuk Gleichauf and Waldburga Baur, on 26 Jun 1873 at the Katholisch (The Catholic parish church of St. Johann, consecrated to John the Baptist) in DonaueschingenVillingenBaden, Germany. 

Wilhelm and Flora Kritzer had five children, all baptised in that same church:
  1. Amalia Kritzer b. 7 Oct 1873, bap. 19 Oct 1873
  2. Julius Kritzer b. 18 Aug 1874, bap. 23 Aug 1874
  3. Karl Kritzer b. 3 Nov 1875, bap. 14 Nov 1875
  4. Josef Kritzer b. 30 Oct 1877, bap. 11 Nov 1877 
  5. Wilhelm Kritzer b. 10 Mar 1879, bap. 23 Mar 1879,
    but who sadly died on 14 Sep of the same year.

Eldest son Julius Kritzer of 26 Karlstrasse, Donaueschingen, Germany died on 12 Feb 1925. (Karlstraße, appears to be the town's main street.) Probate was granted, however, in 1929, in England, to Mortimer Rooke, solicitor, attorney of Justina Kritzer, widow. It seems strange to have probate granted in England, unless they also spent time in the UK, but I can find no record of either of them having done so and no other record of Julius, nor Justina.

The three other surviving siblings certainly came to Britain to work in service in some very distinguished households and were in the UK at the outbreak of the First World War, where they found themselves at the epicentre of the anti-German hysteria and Spy Feverincited by the press

Pelham Place, South Kensington
cc-by-sa/2.0 - © Marathon - geograph.org.uk/p/2730271

Amalia Kritzer (27), daughter of Wilhelm Kritzer and Flora Gleichauf, in 1901, was employed as a Lady's Maid in the household of spinster sisters, Mary and Adela Ram at 20, Alexander Square, Kensington, a garden square in London's Chelsea, SW3. (Like the private communal gardens seen in Notting Hill.) 

In 1911, she was working as Lady's Maid for a 3rd sister, Elizabeth Ram at 19 Pelham Place, Kensington. The two older Ram sisters were born in France and the latter in Ireland, so the family don't appear on any census in England until we find them, living with their father, Stephen Ram, in the similarly upmarket Egerton Gardens, in 1891, where he was 'Living on own Means'. (Stephen Ram (1819-1899), of Ramsfort ParkGoreyCounty Wexford, Ireland (The Rams of Gorey), had married Mary Christian Casamayor at Marylebone Church on 6 Aug 1839, with whom he had 7 children.)

In 1921, Amalie Kritzer (47) Lady's Maid from Baden, Germany was still working for Elizabeth Ram (62) at 19, Pelham Place, South Kensington, London. Living with Miss Ram was her niece, Christina M Ram and the pair were attended by Amalie, a Cook, a Parlourmaid and a Housemaid.

Elizabeth Ram died, at 67, in 1926 S Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 111 and The London Daily Chronicle of 15 Oct 1926 reported on, "£300 A YEAR TO MAID. Miss Elizabeth Ram of Pelham Place, South Kensington, whose estate is valued at £100,441 [nearly £8 million in 2024], left £200, the contents of her rooms, and £300 a year to her maid, Amalie Kritzer."

Amalie Kritzer, spinster, of 125 Beaufort St, Chelsea, London died, aged 60, on 4 Oct 1934. She left £1267 5s 8d (~£114,000 in 2024). Probate was granted to Mortimer Rooke and Alexander Herbert Macdonald, solicitors.

Source of the Donaubach in Donaueschingen (historically considered the source of the Danube)
Donaueschingen, in the Schwarzwald (Black Forest) near the confluence of the two sources of the river Danube, close to the borders with Switzerland and France, is postcard perfectThis video gives us a look around the town today and the pronunciation of Doe-now-ess-shingen. 

Tuesday, 24 June 2025

William Palmer and Henrietta Crabb

St Cecilia, Little Hadham, Herts
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William Palmer (b. 6 Feb 1793 in Bishop's Stortford), son of William Palmer and Mary Sanders, married Henrietta Crabb (bap. 2 May 1800 in Little Hadham), daughter of James Crabb and Keziah Bocock at St Cecilia, Little Hadham on 24 Jun 1823. They were married by Licence and with the consent of James Crabb, even though Henrietta would have been over twenty-one.

They had six children, baptised at St Michael’s Church, Bishop's Stortford:

  1. William Palmer bap. 4 Jul 1824. (Died in 1867.)
  2. John Sanders Palmer bap. 4 Sep 1825. (Buried 27 Nov 1825.)
  3. Martha Palmer bap. 4 May 1828 
  4. John Smyth Palmer bap. 27 Oct 1831. (Buried 30 Aug 1835.)
  5. Mary Henrietta Palmer bap. 4 Dec 1835. (Died at 30 in 1865.)
  6. Amelia Palmer b. 1841 D Quarter in BPS STORTFORD Volume 06 Page 461, bap. 15 Oct 1841.
On the first five baptisms, William Palmer's occupation is listed as Stationer. On Amelia's baptism, William is described as a Bookseller. The GRO birth registration for Amelia confirms her mothers maiden name as CRABB.

In 1841, William Palmer (44) Tallow Chandler was listed in Bridge Street, Bishop's Stortford with Henrietta Palmer (36), William Palmer (15) and Mary Palmer (4), plus Susannah Perrin (20) Female Servant; Jane Judd (15) Female Servant; William Hopkins (20) Lighterman and Elizabeth Palmer (20) Governess. Martha Palmer (13) may have been away at school.

Henrietta Palmer died, at 43, in 1844 S Quarter in BISHOPS-STORTFORD Vol 06 Page 299 and was buried, at St Michael’s Church on 24 Sep 1844.

In 1851, William Palmer (58) Tallow Chandler Employing 4 Men & Shopkeeper, Widower was still in Bridge Street with William Palmer (26), Martha Palmer (22), Mary H Palmer (15), Amelia Palmer (9), Sarah Nichols (22) General Servant and Mary A Hammond (20) General Servant.

William Palmer Jnr married Eliza Skinner in Q1 1857, in Bishop's Stortford, but Eliza Palmer died, at 35, in 1858 J Quarter in OF THE BISHOP - STORTFORD UNION Volume 03A Page 120.

In 1861, William Palmer (68) Tallow Chandler employing 5 men, was still in Bridge Street, with Martha Palmer (33), Mary Palmer (25), Amelia Palmer (19) and one Servant, Sarah Handscomb (19). William Palmer Jnr (36) Chandler's Clerk, Widower, was a Lodger in Windhill, Bishop's Stortford.

Mary Henrietta Palmer died at 30, in 1865 D Quarter in THE BISHOP STORTFORD UNION Volume 03A Page 149.

William Palmer Jnr died at 43 in 1867 S Quarter in OF THE BISHOP STORTFORD UNION Volume 03A Page 164.

In 1871, William Palmer (78) Tallow Chandler was still in Bridge Street with daughter Martha Palmer (43) and one Servant, Mary Wood (21).

1840 letter from London to Bishop's Stortford businessman and father of six surfaces 180 years later – in New Zealand
William Palmer died at 84 on 8 Aug 1877 (S Quarter in BISHOPS STORTFORD Volume 03A Page 172) and was buried on 13 Aug 1877, at St Michael’s Church, Bishop's Stortford. Probate was granted on 22 Feb 1878, with the sole Beneficiary being, Henry Staines Wilton, husband of his youngest daughter, Amelia.

In 1881, Martha Palmer (52) was living in Great Dunmow in the household of Henry Wilton, her sister Amelia's father-in-law. 

In 1891, Martha Palmer (63) was living in New Street, Great Dunmow, with Henry Wilton's widow (his second wife), Ann.

And in 1901, Martha Palmer (72) was still living with Ann Wilton.

Martha Palmer died at 81, in 1909 J Qtr in DUNMOW Vol 04A Page 415.

Monday, 23 June 2025

Francis Henry Flint and Ellen Wilton

Old Poplar Town Hall Built 1870. Now the Lansbury Heritage Hotel.
Photo: Maggie Jones Generously released to the Public domain

Francis Henry Flint (b. 18 Jan 1859, bap. 6 Mar 1861 in Camden Town), son of Henry Obadiah Flint and Mary Ann Riley, married Ellen Wilton (b. 1857), daughter of Richard Wilton and Catherine Byatt, at the Register Office in Poplar, London, on 23 June 1878. (The Old Poplar Town Hall, located at 117 High Street, Poplar (E14), is a Grade II Listed Building dating back to 1870. This building likely served as the register office in 1878.) Witnesses to their marriage were Henry Flint and Mary A Flint, Francis' parents.

Registry office weddings, as we know them, became legally recognized in England and Wales with the Marriage Act of 1836, which came into effect on July 1, 1837, after the establishment of the General Register Office

Nevertheless, Register Office weddings were unusual and this is certainly the earliest that I've encountered in my research. Professor Rebecca Probert, Professor of Law at University of Exeter, who is definitely the go-to expert on marriage law, writes that, "before the start of the twentieth century it was very much a minority choice" and suggests that, for some, "the greater privacy of the register office would have been the main attraction". So, if a church marriage was likely quicker and cheaper, there needed to be a good reason for Francis Henry Flint and Ellen Wilton to choose this route. 

This couple had three children:
  1. Francis Henry Flint b. 1879 S Quarter in POPLAR Vol 01C Page 686, who also died in 1879 S Quarter in POPLAR Vol 01C Page 422
  2. Emily Flint b. 1882 S Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 623 with the mother's maiden name listed as FELTON. (Guess that's a bit like Wilton.)
  3. Alice Flint b. 24 Jul 1883 in the Register of Births in the Poplar Union Workhouse (1883 S Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 676), bap. 10 Aug 1883 at All Saints Church, Poplar, daughter of Henry and Ellen
The 1st and 3rd GRO births show the mother's maiden name WILTON.

Henry Flint of the 2nd Dragoon Guards, aged 20, birthplace St Pancras, Middlesex, regimental number 2166, is listed among UK Military Deserters, having deserted at Dublin on 13 Sep 1879. This, unfortunately, looks to be him. Private Henry Finch #2166, who had enlisted in London, was, however, discharged from the 2nd Dragoon Guards on 22 Mar 1880 after what looks like only 114 days (about 16 weeks) in the service. The cause of discharge is 'Igny', which I think is shorthand for ignominy (public shame or disgrace).

The couple were not together in 1881 and were back with their respective families. Listed as Henry Flint (22) Labourer, purporting to be Single, was in the household of his parents at 34, Brunswick Road, Islington. While, listed as Ellen Wilton (mistake or deliberate?) (24) Match Maker, Married, was living back in her mother's household at 23, Powis Road, Bromley, Poplar. If these circumstances indicate a break up, one assumes the pair got back together again to have the two daughters as DNA links me to the younger of them. (Living little more than half a mile from the Bryant & May's match factory in Bow, it's probably reasonable to assume this was where Ellen was working. Conditions there at that time were so bad, it was dubbed "white slavery", which eventually motivated the London Matchgirls Strike of 1888.)

From seeing that Ellen's third child, Alice, although legitimate, was born in the Poplar Union Workhouse, leads me to suspect that Francis Henry Flint had again disappeared and that Ellen's mother, Catherine, had probably died.

Ellen then appears to have another two daughters with a John Finch:
  1. Ellen Elizabeth Finch b. 1888 M Quarter in POPLAR Vol 01C Page 661
  2. Jessie Finch b. 1890 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 608
Both are registered with the mother's maiden name as WILTON.

In 1891, John Finch (37) Carman was living at 4, Faronia Street, Bromley, Poplar, London, with Ellen Finch (35) from Dunmow, Essex; Emily Finch [Flint] (9); Alice Finch [Flint] (8); Ellen Finch (3) and Jessie Finch (1). They listed all of the children under the surname Finch. The five year gap between Alice and Ellen Elizabeth, does also suggest a different relationship, but clearly John is not Francis Henry; he's around five years older, born in a different place and has a different occupation. Originally, I'd found four of Alice's 12 children registered with the mother's maiden name as Finch and thought that was just a miss-hearing or misspelling of Flint, but now it becomes clear why there was this confusion. However, I can find no marriage between Ellen Flint, neither as Ellen Wilton, and John Finch so I'm sure they were just shacked up and Ellen thus avoided committing bigamy.

In 1901, Ellen Finch (listing herself as only 38, she was ~44), 'Widow', Charing (Charwoman) from Great Dunmow, Essex, was living at 17, Furze Street, Bromley, Poplar with Ellen Finch (13) and Jessie Finch (10).

Haven't been able to discover where John Finch came from, much less where he went, so I have no idea whether he really had died, or they had simply ended their relationship. There was a locally well-known John Finch, Carman & Contractor in Hackney, who advertised regularly in the Eastern Argus and Borough of Hackney Times around these dates, but I have no way of knowing if this is the same man. (Someone descended from one of these daughters might be able to confirm or refute the connection via DNA.)

Haven't been able to find Ellen, as Wilton, Flint, or Finch in 1911. There are, however, numerous records of an Ellen Finch being admitted and discharged into or out of Stepney Workhouse around this time and any one or all of them might relate to her. (Hardly a new experience: her first time was as an Inmate of Great Dunmow Union Workhouse at the age of four in 1861.)

In 1921, Ellen Finch (62) 'Widow' from Great Dunmow, Essex, was living alone at 3 Weston Street, Bow. She does not list any occupation.

Ellen Finch (formerly Flint, née Wilton) died aged 73, in 1929 M Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 143, it would appear.

St Saviour, Markhouse Road, Walthamstow
Photo available for reuse under this Creative Commons licence.

However, the man Ellen Wilton was still married to (there is, unsurprisingly, nothing listed for them in the Divorce Index), Francis Henry Flint (35) calling himself a Batchelor (and misnaming his father), married Ellen Battershall (21) Spinster, daughter of John Edward Battershall (John Edward Battershall and Ann Rawlings), both giving their address as 22 Arkley Crescent, at the church of St Saviour (Formerly St James), Walthamstow, Essex on 15 Aug 1896.

This couple had one daughter:
  1. Elsie Alice Flint b. 23 Mar 1897 (1897 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 354), with her mother's maiden name BATTERSHALL.
In 1911, Ellen Flint (35) Married, Assistant caretaker schools, was at 114 Fleeming Road, Winns Avenue, Walthamstow with Elsie Alice Flint (14). This Ellen listed herself as having been married for 15 years and had one child.

Elsie Alice Flint married Walter James Welch, whose residence at the time was Birmingham, at St Mary's Church, Walthamstow, on 21 Nov 1915. In 1921, Walter James Welch (27) Compositor born in Kingston upon Thames, Surrey and Elsie Alice Welch (24) were living with his parents, at 9, Chester Road, Walthamstow. While Ellen Flint (44) 'Widow' from Islington, London, Viewer of BSA Air rifles at the Birmingham Small Arms Factory, was living at 9, Labourer Villas, Poplar Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire. In 1939, Walter J Welch (b. James Walter Welch on 9 Feb 1894) Compositor and Elsie A Welch were living at 20 Whitethorn Gardens, Hornchurch, Essex.

Ellen Flint (née Battershall) died, aged 66, in 1941 D Quarter in ILFORD Volume 04A Page 569.

Elsie Alice Welch (née Flint) of 20 Whitethorn Gardens, Slewins Lane, Hornchurch, Essex (wife of James Walter Welch) died 13 June 1958 at Hornchurch Telephone Exchange Hornchurch Administration London 27 August to the said James Walter Welch printers compositor. Effects £1027 18s 6d. James Walter Welch died, in Romford, in 1962. It does not appear that this couple had children, so it looks as though the line ends here.

Meanwhile, the now doubly-errant Francis Henry Flint, it appears, earned a medal serving in South Africa in the Second Boer War with the Johannesburg Mounted Rifles, in 1901. The address for him on the Medal Roll is 3 Rufford Street, York Road, Kings Cross, which is about 350 meters from where he grew up in Wellington Square, St Pancras, so I'm sure this has to be him. There was a record of a Henry Flint enlisting in the Johannesburg Mounted Rifles, in Durban on 11 Dec 1901, where he claims his previous regiment as the 5th Lancers (no record found); his period served 8⅓ Years and his occupation Bricklayer. Height 5 Feet 10 Inches, weight 168 lbs, with hazel eyes and brown hair are close enough to the descriptions we have later. There's a note suggesting the medal was reissued on 22 Mar 1907.

The following reports show he was in Australia, from at least 1908:

The South Australian Police Gazette of 9 Feb 1910 reports on "Francis Henry Flint, laborer, 45 years of age, 5ft 9in high, dark hair, dark moustache (turning grey), brown eyes, dark complexion, wore blue serge coat, blue dungaree trousers, and soft white shirt, for non payment on fine, 6s (including costs), on a charge of drunkenness in a public place, at Port Adelaide, on January 21st, 1910. In default of immediate payment to be arrested and lodged in the Adelaide Gaol for seven days."

From the South Australian Police Gazette of 5 Apr 1911, "Francis Henry Flint, described as a laborer, 45 years of age, 5ft 8in high, medium build, fair complexion, grey hair, grey or blue eyes, grey moustache, wore brown tweed suit and grey felt hat, for non payment of fine, 5s, on a charge of drunkenness in a public place, at Adelaide, on March 16th, 1911. In default of immediate payment to be warrant and lodged in the Adelaide Gaol for three days. Warrant filed at Detective Office, Adelaide."

In the South Australian Police Gazette of 10 Apr 1912, report of a theft, "Between 11 p.m. on the 6th an 8 a.m. on the 7th instant, from a bedroom of a dwelling-house, Lipson Street, Port Adelaide, an open-face Ansonia metal watch, ordinary hands, had attached a long Mexican silver chain, long and short links alternately, the property of Francis Henry Flint; identifiable."

From the South Australian Police Gazette of 7 Jul 1915, "Henry Flint (alias Harry Johnson), tried at Renmark on March 18th, 1915, for unlawful possession; sentenced to six months' hard labor; native of London, England, 55 years of age, 5 ft 8in high, fair complexion, dark hair (turning grey), grey eyes, large nose (bent and thick at point), medium mouth, broad square chin. Small mole inside shoulder, right hand has been knocked about and bent, two scars on right elbow, burn mark inside wrist, scar on left elbow, large scar outside left forearm an one on wrist, several moles on chest, large scar in centre of back (on spine), large mole to left of scar, hanging mole on right shoulder-blade and three near armpit, large brown mark at base of right shoulder blade, scar on small part of back, one on left shin outside left knee, outside left ankle, across right knee, and across front of right leg, mole behind left knee, large scar on left calf, and one between the eyes. Indistinct irregular tattoo mark on right wrist. Vide Police Gazette 1908, page 241. "Prisoners Discharged." Freedom due July 27th, 1915."

From the South Australian Police Gazette of 3 May 1916, "Francis Henry Flint, described as about 40 years of age, 5ft 9in high, well built, dark hair, grey eyes, right hand deformed, a laborer, wore dark-grey clothes and grey soft felt hat; for non-payment of fine and costs (6s. in all) on a charge of drunkenness at Adelaide on February 19th, 1916. In default of payment, to be arrested and lodged in the Adelaide Gaol for three days. Warrant filed at Detective Office, Adelaide."

The South Australian Police Gazette of 17 May 1916 reports that "Francis Henry Flint, for non-payment of fine and costs on a charge of drunkenness, at Adelaide, on February 19th, 1916, has been arrested at Hummocks Hill by M.C. Lally; fine and costs have been paid."

The South Australian Police Gazette of 28 Jun 1916, Apprehensions During the Week, "Francis Henry Flint, by Det. O'Sullivan and F.C. Kennedy, for unlawful possession of two rugs and two blankets, the property of the Associated Smelters at Port Pirie; fined £10, in default six months."

And again the South Australian Police Gazette of 13 Dec 1916, published the "Descriptions of prisoners to be discharged from H.M. Gaols during the week ending December 23rd, 1916", including: "Francis Henry Flint, native of England, laborer, 57 years of age, 5ft 9in high, fresh complexion, dark hair (going grey), blue eyes, right hand crippled, bullet wound in left thigh. Tried at Port Pirie on June 22nd, 1916, for unlawful possession; six months."

There is one last potential sighting of Francis Henry Flint, Railway Employee, in Merthyr, Queensland on the Australia Electoral Roll in 1931 (by then he would be 72, so it's reasonable), living at 226 Kent Street, Teneriffe (an inner suburb of Brisbane). Living at the same address were Amelia Ellen Flint, Home Duties; Eva Maud Flint, Home Duties; and Frank Reginald Flint, New Farm, Insurance Agent. Could it be that he had formed a third family there?

Sunday, 22 June 2025

Thomas Back and Mary Drake

Church of St Paul, Durnford Street, East Stonehouse, Plymouth
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Thomas Back (39) married Mary Drake (42) at the Chapel of St Paul, East Stonehouse on 22 Jun 1852. Both gave their address as 20 George Street, which is in Devonport. Thomas was listed as a Labourer, son of Thomas Back, Shipwright and Mary Drake as daughter of Thomas Drake, Shipwright. This, I believe, is all nearly true. Thomas Back, bap. 24 Oct 1813 in Stoke Damerel, was actually the son of John Back, Shipwright and Martha Norton. 

Mary Drake b. 20 Apr 1810 and baptised in Stoke Damerel on 15 Dec 1812, was the daughter of Thomas Drake, Shipwright and Frances Poad.

In 1841, Mary Drake (30) had been among a long list of people residing in Hill Street, St Helier, Jersey, along with her mother, Frances Drake (75), Edward Drake (9) and Mary Drake (5). There is a baptism for this latter child, in St Helier, Jersey on 25 Jun 1837, illegitimate daughter of Mary Drake.

We next find Mary Drake (44) Unmarried, Tayloress (sic) in Stoke Damerel Workhouse in 1851, accompanied by Mary Drake (14) born in St Helier, Jersey; George Drake (8) and Thomas Drake (0). George Drake, was born 23 Jan 1843 and bap. 30 Jul 1843, illegitimate son of Mary Drake with abode given as Workhouse. Thomas Drake b. 1850 D Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 09 Page 429, has no mother's maiden name (illegitimate). He was later known as Thomas Back and named Thomas Back as his father.

After their marriage in 1852, the couple added a daughter:
  1. Eliza Back b. 1853 S Qtr in STOKE DAMEREL Vol 05B Page 266
On the 1852 marriage, Thomas Back was listed as a Bachelor, however, it is my belief that he had previously married Eliza Stafford on 7 Aug 1837 at St Andrew's Church, Plymouth. On this marriage, Thomas Back was listed as a Mariner, son of John Back, Shipwright. (There is a Thomas Back b. 1813 listed among Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1835-1857.) In 1841, Thomas Back (25), Eliza Back (20), Eliza Back (2) and Mary Back (0) were among a long list of people (boarders perhaps) in Pembroke Street, one of Devonport's principal streets, with a great number of retailers and public houses.

In fact, they had the names of the their daughters transposed. Mary Ann Elizabeth Back was born in 1838 J Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 09 Page 418 (mother's maiden name confirmed as Stafford). Eliza Ann Back, for whom I cannot find a birth registration, was born around Sep 1840 and died on 26 Aug 1842 (1842 S Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 09 Page 332). This second child was buried on 30 Aug 1842, in Stoke Damerel.

In 1851, William Still (32) was living as husband and wife in Stoke Damerel with Eliza 'Still' (36) 'Wife', his three daughters (presumably from a previous relationship) and Mary A Back (12) described as his Daughter-In-Law - which I've often seen used interchangeably, as here, to mean Step-Daughter. While I can find no evidence of a marriage between Eliza and William Still, this does suggest, unless she had died by the following year, that Thomas Back may have been committing bigamy in 1852. As yet I've found no further records for Eliza Back or as Eliza Still to confirm or deny the situation. Although calling himself a bachelor and misnaming his father on the 1852 marriage might be seen as evidence of Thomas Back attempting deliberate subterfuge. It also didn't add up that Thomas and Mary's marriage took place in Stonehouse when they lived in Devonport and I think this is probably the reason why.

We lose sight of Thomas and Mary also until, in 1881, when Thomas Back (70) Labourer and Mary Back (72) Tailoress, were found living at 40, Cannon Street, Devonport, seemingly in a separate household, but the very same address as their daughter, Eliza and her husband, Samuel Eastabrook.

Mary Back died in 1883 J Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 05B Page 226, with age estimated at 75. Thomas Back died five years later, in 1888 D Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 05B Page 217, age given as 78.

Mary Drake's children:
  1. Edmund Drake b. 5 Oct 1831, bap. 22 Jan 1849 in Stoke Damerel, Devon, son of Mary Drake, Single Woman. Mary's eldest illegitimate child was listed, in 1841, as Edward Drake, born around 1832 on the Isle of Jersey. On both of his marriages, Edmund named his father as Edmund Drake (often correct, but also common is saying the same as one's own name when the father is not known). He also lists his father as a Tailor. Mary was a Tailoress and again, when people make stuff up for the records, there's usually a grain of truth in it, as we can see here.
  2. Mary Drake (bap. 25 Jun 1837 in St Helier, Jersey) died on 3 Jun 1878 (1878 J Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 05B Page 261) with age estimated as 38 (she was 40). She was buried on 7 Jun 1878, with her abode on the burial record as 40, Cannon Street, Devonport.
  3. George Drake b. 23 Jun 1843, bap. 30 Jul 1843. George Drake from Devonport, Devon, with date of birth listed as 23 Jun 1843 joined the Royal Navy at the Royal William [Yard] on 31 Jul 1857 as a Boy 2nd Class. In 1861, at 17, George was with the "Royal Navy At Sea And In Ports Abroad". He appears to have served until 13 Feb 1868, when he was invalided. He next turns up, in 1881, aged 39, as a boarder in the household of Cornwallis Johnson from Shelford, Cambridgeshire at 19, Pitt Street, Stansfield, Todmorden, Yorkshire, employed as Cellarman at cotton mill. After that, we lose sight of him unfortunately.
  4. Thomas Drake, later known as Thomas Back b. 1850

Friday, 20 June 2025

Charles Stephen Hockley and Esther Clark

St Helen & St Giles, Rainham
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Charles Richard Hockley (b. 1874 in Bromley-by-Bow, Poplar), born and baptised Charles Stephen Hockley, from marriage onwards Charles Richard Hockley, son of James Hockley and Elizabeth Wilton, married Esther Clark (bap. 23 Jun 1878 in Rainham, Essex), daughter of Abraham Henry Clark and Esther Shellito, at St Helen And St Giles, Rainham, on 20 Mar 1897.

Charles and Esther Hockley had six children:

  1. Rose Ellen Hockley b. 19 Jan 1898 (1898 M Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 525), bap. 20 Feb 1898 at St Helen & St Giles
  2. May Hockley b. 27 Sep 1901 (1901 D Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 613), bap. 4 Nov 1901 at St Helen & St Giles
  3. William Stephen Hockley b. 12 Jan 1907 (1907 M Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 626), bap. 17 Mar 1907 at St Helen & St Giles
  4. Richard Charles Hockley b. 12 Jan 1907 (1907 M Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 626), bap. 17 Mar 1907 at St Helen & St Giles
  5. Edith Florence Hockley b. 4 Jun 1911 (1911 S Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 1185), bap. 2 Jul 1911 at St Helen & St Giles
  6. Dorothy Mabel Hockley b. 29 Jul 1914 (1914 S Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 1226), bap. 13 Sep 1914 at St Helen & St Giles. Dorothy Mabel Hockley, of 1 Rosedale Terrace, Rainham, Essex, daughter of Charles Hockley, a Farm Labourer died on 7 Mar 1915 (1915 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 393), at the London HospitalWhitechapel from (1) Intussusception (2) Operation. She was buried on 13 Mar 1915 in Havering, London.
All of the birth registrations show the mother's maiden name of CLARK. All of the baptisms list them as the children of Charles Richard and Esther Hockley. Richard Charles and William Stephen, were identical twins. 

In 1901, Charles Hockley (27) Agricultural Labourer was living at 1, Rosedale Terrace, Rainham, Essex with Esther Hockley (22) and Rose Hockley (3).

In 1911, and still living at 1, Rosedale Terrace, Rainham, Essex, were Charles Hockley (37) Farm Labourer; Esther Hockley (34), Rose Ellen Hockley (13), May Hockley (9), William Stephen Hockley (4) and Richard Charles Hockley (4). On the 1911 census return the couple state that they'd been married 14 years and, by that time, had 4 children, with all four then still alive.

Charles Hockley (no middle name listed) died, aged 41 in 1916 D Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 620 and was buried on 17 Oct 1916.

In 1921, Esther Hockley (43) Widow, doing Agricultural Work at Brick House, Rainham, still at 1, Rosedale Terrace, Rainham with Rose E Hockley (23) Carburettor Tester; May Hockley (19) Machine Minder Out Of Work; Richard C and William S Hockley (14) Farm Work; and Edith F Hockley (10).

In 1939, Esther Hockley (b. 28 May 1878), Widowed, School Cleaner, address was 100 Upminster Road, Rainham, and living with her were William S Hockley, Farm Worker; and Edith F Hockley, Machine Operator.

Esther Hockley died, aged 71, in  1950 J Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 05A Page 455 and was buried on 8 May 1950 in the district of Havering.

  • Rose Ellen Hockley married Edward Herbert Parker at St Helen And St Giles, Rainham on 12 Nov 1921. Rose Ellen Parker, of 136 Upminster Road South, Rainham, died on 7 Dec 1983 and was buried on 14 Dec 1983 in the district of Havering.
  • May Hockley married Archie Harold Patch (b. 6 Jun 1898 in Grays, Essex) at St Helen And St Giles, Rainham on 5 Jun 1926. May Patch died in 1930 M Quarter in ORSETT Volume 04A Page 645, aged 29, and was buried on 13 Mar 1930 in Havering, London.
  • William Stephen Hockley, does not appear to have married. He died aged 70 and was buried on 8 Jul 1977 in Havering, London.
  • Richard Charles Hockley married Beatrice Maud Deeks at St Helen And St Giles, Rainham on 18 Nov 1933. Richard Charles Hockley died at 84 in DOR Q2/1991 in BRENTWOOD (4662) Volume 9 Page 1679 and was buried on 11 Apr 1991 in Havering, London.
  • Edith Florence Hockley married John Cyril Peel (b. 7 Dec 1911 in Blackburn, Lancashire), in the district of Romford, Essex on 3 Sep 1945. John Cyril Peel died in Norfolk in 1983; Edith Florence Peel of 78 Clark Road, Ditchingham, Norfolk died on 7 Dec 1984.

Thursday, 19 June 2025

Joseph Trevail and Jane Rundle

Luxulyan Church, dedicated to St Cyriacus & St Julitta
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Joseph Trevail (bap. 24 Jun 1816, at Luxulyan, Cornwall), son of John Trevail and Elizabeth Knight, married Jane Rundle (bap. 23 Feb 1817 in Lanivet, Cornwall), daughter of Nicholas Rundle and Mary Ann Burn, on 19 Jun 1837, at the parish church of St Cyriacus and St Julitta, Luxulyan, Cornwall.  

Joseph and Jane Trevail had 12 children:

  1. Nicholas Rundle Trevail bap. 28 Jan 1838 in Luxulyan
  2. Ellen Trevail bap. 22 Sep 1839 in Luxulyan 
  3. Mary Ann Burn Trevail bap. 29 Dec 1841 in Luxulyan
  4. Emma Jane Rundle Trevail bap. 25 Feb 1843 in Luxulyan 
  5. Elfrida Trevail bap. 4 Feb 1845 in Luxulyan (died 1921, see below)
  6. Joseph Rundle Trevail, b. 1847 J Quarter in OF BODMIN Volume 09 Page 42, bap. (as Joseph Henry) 21 Jun 1847 in Luxulyan
  7. Dahlia Trevail b. 1849 J Quarter in OF BODMIN Volume 09 Page 42, bap. (as Cordelia) 27 May 1849 
  8. Charles Trevail b. 2 Aug 1851 (no GRO registration) at Rosemelling, bap. 16 Sep 1851 at Rosemelling Chapel
  9. Olivia Trevail, b. 1854 (per census), bap. 20 May 1855 in Luxulyan
  10. Nancy Rundell (sic) Trevail b. 1855 J Quarter in BODMIN Volume 05C Page 103, bap. 20 May 1855 (disappears)
  11. Kate Trevail b. 12 Nov 1857 (1857 D Quarter in OF BODMIN Volume 05C Page 90), bap. 27 Dec 1857 in Luxulyan
  12. Jane Rundle Trevail, b. 1860 M Quarter in OF BODMIN Volume 05C Page 104, bap. 29 Mar 1862
In 1841, at Tregarden Farm, Luxulyan, were Joseph Trevail (25) Farmer, Jane Trevail (20), Nicholas Trevail (3) and Ellen Trevail (1), Charles Trevail (20) and Philip Trevail (40) (Charles and Philip were Joseph's brothers. Philip was the father of Jane Trevail & grandfather of Silvanus Trevail).

In 1851, again at Tregarden Farm, Luxulyan, were Joseph Trevail (35) Farmer of 118 acres, Jane (34), Nicholas R (13) Farmer's Son, Ellen (11), Mary A (9), Alfreda (sic) (6), Joseph (4), Delilah (sic) (1), John Couch (17) Farm Servant, William Browne (17) Farm Servant, John Tamblyn (60) Vitenary Sergant (sic) - they mean Veterinary Surgeon LOL - from Broadoak. Emma Trevail (9) was in the household of her grandparents, Nicholas and Mary Ann Rundle at Tymorkham [Farm], St Neot CornwallLiskeard, but listed as their niece (guessing her uncle completed the census for his parents).

Jane Trevail died, aged 43, in 1860 M Qtr in BODMIN Vol 05C Page 67.

In 1861, Joseph Trevail (45), was farming 118 acres at Tregarden Farm, Luxulyan, with Nicholas R Trevail (23), Ellen (21), Elfreda (16), Joseph (15), Delcia (sic) (12), Charles (9), Olivia (7), Nancy (5), Kate (3) and Jane R (1). 

In the last quarter of 1865, Joseph Trevail remarried to Eliza Roach (sic), in Plymouth, and went on to have another two daughters:
  1. Hetty Trevail b. 23 Apr 1866 (1866 J Qtr in BODMIN Vol 05C 97)
  2. Emily Trevail b. 1868 J Quarter in BODMIN Volume 05C Page 95. Died, aged 25, on 24 Oct 1893 (1893 D Quarter in BODMIN Vol 05C Page 53) and is buried at the parish church in Lanlivery.
Eliza Roche (bap. 26 Dec 1824 in Luxulyan, Cornwall), daughter of John Roche and Jenefer Udy, had previously married William Roche (bap. 20 Jun 1824 in Luxulyan, Cornwall), son of William Roach (sic) and Mary Warne, on 5 Mar 1853 in Luxulyan, Cornwall. At a guess, probably yet another pair of cousins. The couple had three daughters: Priscilla Roach b. 1853; Eliza Jane Roach b. 1856 and Charlotte Ann Roach b. 1858, before William Roach died, at 35, in 1858 S Quarter in OF BODMIN Volume 05C Page 63.

Then the following item appeared in the London Gazette of 20 Aug 1869: "Joseph Trevail, of Tregarden in the Parish of Luxulyan, in the County of Cornwall, Farmer, having been adjudged bankrupt under a Petition for adjudication of Bankruptcy, filed in the County Court of Cornwall, holden at Bodmin on the 14th day of August 1869, is hereby required to surrender himself to John Basset Collins, Registrar of the said Court, at the first meeting of creditors to be held before the said Registrar, on the 4th day of September next, at 10 o'clock in the forenoon precisely, at the said Court."

In 1871, Joseph Trevail (55) was at RedmoorLanlivery with wife Eliza (45), Kitty (assume they mean Hetty) (4) and Emily (2) and Charlotte Ann Roach (12), listed as Daughter-in-law, but obviously they mean Step-daughter. Olivia Trevail (20), was a kitchen maid in the household of Francis Gosling, Banker, at Wellbury House, Great Offley, Hitchin, Hertfordshire. (Goslings Bank was one of the banks merged into Barclays Bank in 1896). Eliza's two older daughters, Priscilla Roach (17) and Eliza J Roach (15) were staying in the household of Richard Williams in Falmouth, Cornwall and his wife Priscilla, who was their aunt, Eliza's sister.

In 1881, at Redmoor, Lanlivery, were Joseph Trevail (65) Butcher & farmer of 2½ acres, Eliza Trevail (56), Hetty Trevail (14), Emily Trevail (13).  

Lanlivery, St. Brevita's Church
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Joseph Trevail died, aged 75, on 1 Apr 1891 (1891 J Quarter in BODMIN Volume 05C Page 59). He is buried at Lanlivery Parish Church and, having found these details in "Cornwall Memorial Inscriptions", we can probably assume there may be a headstone.

In 1891, Eliza Trevail (66) widow, farmer was still at Redmoor, Lanlivery, with her daughters Hetty (24) and Emily (22).

In 1901, Eliza Trevail (76) widow, living on own means, was alone at Churchtown, Lanlivery Rural, Bodmin. 

Eliza Trevail died on 26 Nov 1904, aged 80 (1904 D Quarter in BODMIN Volume 05C Page 41) and is also buried at Lanlivery parish church.

By 1871, Elfrida Trevail (26) was a Pauper Patient at the Lunatic Asylum, Bodmin (later St Lawrence's Mental Hospital). She was still there, aged 57, in 1901, at 67 in 1911 and at 77 in 1921. After 50+ years in that institution, Elfrida Trevail died, aged 77, in 1921 D Quarter in BODMIN Volume 05C Page 81 and was buried in Bodmin on 12 Dec 1921.