Inherited Craziness
A place to share all the nuts found on my family tree

Thursday, 8 October 2020

Job Sweeney and Eliza Louisa Tompson

Cable Street, Stepney

On 5 Jan 1893, Eliza Louisa Tompson, daughter of Dan Tompson and Mary Ann Green married Job Sweeney, son of John Henry Charles Sweeney and Susannah Harvey at the Parish Church of St Anthony, Stepney. They were both aged 24 and both gave their address at the time of the marriage, as 3 Monteagle Street, Stepney. Their only son, Job Thomas, was born at 25 Monteagle Street, Stepney (which further research suggests was a boarding house) on 27 Aug 1897 and was baptised at St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, on 19 Sep 1897.

Eliza Louisa Tompson, who was my great-grandmother, was born on 24 Aug 1868 at 299 Cable Street, St George in the East. Originally, I'd found Eliza Louisa, aged 12, on the 1881 census, living with her father, in Watney Street, St George in the East. At that time, Dan's wife (his 2nd, it transpires) was listed as Sarah J, born Sarah Jane Baker, who he'd married in 1871. It wasn't until I searched the indexes at the General Register Office for Eliza Louisa's birth, that I discovered that her mother's maiden name had been Green. 

After that, I had been able to locate the 2 year old Eliza Louisa (listed as Thompson), living with her maternal grandmother, Eliza Green, landlady at The King and Queen Public House in Tait Street, St George in the East, in 1871. 

In 1870, Eliza Louisa's grandad, Edward Green, died and so did her mother, Mary Ann, on 19 Mar 1870 at 363 Cable Street, after giving birth to a son, Dan Edward Green Tompson. The causes listed on Mary Ann's death certificate state "Childbirth 7 days, Scarlet Fever 4 days, exhaustion". Last part is hardly surprising! The infant Dan also died in the 2nd quarter of the same year.

In 1891, herself then 22, Eliza Louisa, now a 'fancy box maker' was living with William and Ellen Burton, in Knapp Road, Bromley, Poplar. Eliza Louisa is listed as their niece, actually their step-neice, because Ellen Rosina Burton (née Baker) was the sister of Dan's 2nd wife, her step-mother, Sarah Jane Baker.

In 1901, Job and Eliza were living at 8, Repton Street, Limehouse, Stepney

My mother always claimed that her father and grandmother, Eliza Louisa, had been living in Sidney Street at the time of the Siege of Sidney Street, or Battle of Stepney that took place in January 1911. It's not impossible, but I can find no records to support this. Of course, Eliza Louisa was well away from the area when Cable Street was made famous by it's own battle in 1936.

The Battle of Cable Street gives an insight into the area.

Eliza Louisa Sweeney (née Tompson)
with her granddaughter, Ivy, c. 1939.
By the time of the census on 2 April 1911, the family were living at 102 Fore Street, in the City of London, Job having acquired employment as a Packer and Caretaker. They lived in a flat above the warehouse that came with the job. Job Sweeney died in Dec 1924. Eliza Louisa was still living at 102 Fore Street with her son and his wife, Elizabeth (Bet) née Fuller and granddaughter, Ivy, in 1939 and they all remained there until their home was destroyed in WWII, on the night of 29–30 December 1940, the so-called Second Great Fire of London.

Eliza Louisa Sweeney, otherwise Sweney (as it says on her death certificate), died on 13 Feb 1953, in Hornchurch, Essex, from coronary thrombosis, influenza, chronic bronchitis and old age. She was 84.

Sunday, 4 October 2020

John Horn and Emma Green and Emily Grace Rudd

After the death of one of my 3rd great-grandfathers, Edward Green, landlord of the King and Queen in St George in the East, in 1870, his wife, Eliza, took over as landlady. In 1871, living with her was daughter, Emma Horn (née Green), listed as barmaid and Emma's husband John Horn (a Plumber).

The East London Observer in August 1875 lists Eliza Green as the outgoing licensee at the King and Queen, which ends the family's connection with that pub. But then on 20 May 1876, the same publication lists John Horn as the incoming licensee at the Salisbury Arms, where we find him still on the 1881 census, along with wife and children; Emma (12) and Albert William (8). 

The Salisbury Arms, at one time, stood at 135 Eastfield Street, Limehouse E14. Although the street is still in existence, this pub has been demolished

St George in the East Church
  Steve Cadman / CC BY-SA
John Isaac Robert Horn, my 2x great-grand uncle by marriage, born 18 Jul 1845, was baptised on 31 Aug 1845 at St George in the East church in St George-in-the-East. He was the son of Isaac Horn (a Plumber) and his wife Maria (née Thaxter) of 29 Lower Cornwall St, Shadwell.

In 1851, the family were living at China Place, Back Road, St George in the East with Isaac Horn (46), who was originally from Chippenham, Wiltshire; wife Maria (27) (a Coffee Shop Keeper) and sons; William (8), John (5) and Edwin (0). By 1861, Isaac had added painting to his repertoire of trades and the family, still in Back Road, had grown to include son Isaac (15) and daughter Lucy (3). Both William and John had followed in their father's footsteps to become plumbers. 

John Horn had married Emma Green on 4 Nov 1867, in Stepney. The couple had a daughter Emma, born in 1869 and a son, Edward John Horn, who was born in the 1st quarter, but died in the 3rd quarter of 1871. In the 3rd quarter of 1872, son Albert William is born.
  1. Emma Eliza Horn born 1869
  2. Edward John Horn 1871 (died 1871)
  3. Albert William Horn born 1872
Grave of John Horn at
Dulwich Old Cemetery
Clearly something then happened to Emma, because, in the 4th quarter of 1889, John Horn married Emily Grace Rudd (b. 8 Jul 1857), daughter of Samuel J Rudd (Waiter - began as a Pot Boy) and his wife Mary. 

By 1891, John Horn is "Living on his own means" in Apsley Road, Croydon, Surrey, along with new wife, Emily Grace, and son, Albert William (18) from his first marriage. 

In 1901, now a Retired Publican, John Horn is living 6, Harrington Road, Croydon, Surrey, along with wife, Emily Grace, son Albert (28), daughter Emily Margaret (8) and son Edward John (1), born in1900.
  1. Emily Margaret Horn born 1893
  2. Edward John Horn born 1900
  3. Alfred George born 1902
John Horn died, on Leap Day, 29 Feb 1904, "After Long & Patient Suffering", aged 58. He is buried at Dulwich Old Cemetery, along with his second wife and his daughter, Emma Eliza, from his first marriage to Emma Green. Their son, Albert William, died in the 2nd quarter of 1905, aged 32. 

In 1911, Emily Grace Horn (52), widow, was still living at 6, Harrington Road, Croydon, with daughter Emily Margaret (18) and sons Edward John (11) and Alfred George (9). She was also still at the same address in 1939, aged 82, along with a Domestic Servant, Ivy Carter (24). Emily Grace Horn, then of 19 Macclesfield Road, Woodside, Croydon, widow, died on 7 Aug 1950. She will have been 93. Probate was granted to her sons, Edward John Horn, engineer, and Alfred George Horn, fitter. She left effects of £610 19s 6d (approx. value in £21,040 in 2020). She was buried with her late husband

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